Barely made a dollar
You guessed it right — yet another classic Gillan video has been restored and posted to the intertubes.
Living for the City:
Thanks to steve4422 for keeping us up to date.
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You guessed it right — yet another classic Gillan video has been restored and posted to the intertubes.
Living for the City:
Thanks to steve4422 for keeping us up to date.
Unauthorized copying, while sometimes necessary, is never as good as the real thing
It really is much better now 😃
February 1st, 2025 at 05:01It‘s nice to see this stuff restored for historical fan value, but the vid is naff and so was the idea for GILLAN to cover the Stevie Wonder song – stripping it of its original context as a call against black subjugation and for civil rights. (Nope, starting the vid blatantly with a shot of a sign reading “Mississippi Unemployment Center” to provide some kind of setting doesn’t cut it.)
https://youtu.be/rc0XEw4m-3w
https://youtu.be/7_RgaYueeh4
QUOTE from Wikipedia:
Born into a poor family in Mississippi, a young black man experiences discrimination in looking for work and eventually seeks to escape to New York City (alluding to the Second Great Migration) in hope of finding a new life. Through a series of background noises and spoken dialogue, the man reaches New York by bus, but is then promptly framed for a crime, arrested, convicted and sentenced to ten years in prison.
The basic track (electric piano and Wonder’s first vocal takes) was recorded on December 5, 1972. Moog bass was overdubbed the following day. Drums, harps, and Wonder’s finalized vocals were recorded on December 8, 1972. The track was left untouched until April 20, 1973, when Stevie recorded backing vocals while either slowing down or speeding up the tape, in order to make his backing vocals sound either higher or lower respectively in comparison to his natural voice. Wonder played all the instruments on the song and was assisted by Malcolm Cecil and Robert Margouleff for recording engineering and synthesizer programming. Tenley Williams, writing in Stevie Wonder (2002), feels it was “one of the first soul hits to include both a political message and … sampling … of the sounds of the streets – voices, buses, traffic, and sirens – mixed with the music recorded in the studio.”
UNQUOTE
GILLAN doing it was as incongruous as Blackmore‘s Night banalizing Bob Dylan‘s The Times They Are A-Changin‘ and that‘s saying something.
And the way GILLAN gave the song with its original Southern RnB/Gospel funky groove and city noises a lifeless drawing-by-numbers NWOBHM treatment just adds musical insult to sociological injury and proves that they were not exactly Glenn Hughes when it came down to appropriating Black Music for their purposes.
I read that it wasn’t Ian’s idea to cover the song and that he had to be talked into it, it’s probable then that it came either from Colin Towns or John McCoy as both had likely more exposure to Stevie Wonder’s music due to their fusion backgrounds. (In contrast, Mick Underwood is on record for disliking funk.) Still wasn’t a good idea (or good execution) though.
For the record: I don’t think the band meant ill, they were just thoughtless and perhaps naïve. Someone should have at one point asked the question: “Wait a minute, what are we doing here?”
February 1st, 2025 at 06:48If anyone can point me to a better Janick Gers solo than this, I’m all ears. Would be interesting to know who in the Gillan band camp suggested this audacious cover, given that for a large proportion of the music-aware population, Stevie Wonder had set a very high benchmark. Personally, I think the whole Gillan band exceeded expectations on this one, it’s an actual classic. And I wonder what Coverdale and Hughes, who were united in their idolisation of Stevie Wonder, thought of this?
February 1st, 2025 at 15:13I am not a fan of this version. It lacks soul, both musically and vocally.
The (slower) live version with MSG though is out of this world. One of the best live performances by Gillan from that era I think.
February 1st, 2025 at 18:31Great memories and a great song which was actually Ians idea …this was the bands last appearance on TOTP doing the same song
https://youtu.be/8vI5hirON_4?si=5M87Bvq6B_KmfS4r
I believe they released ” long Gone ” from the Magic album after this ( with the superb Fiji on the B side ) …and that was pretty much that for the Gillan band ( indeed, I remember on the bus on the way down to see them in Cornwall …a chap telling me that he had to have some time off to get his tonsils sorted out ) ..and we all know what happened next …he was Born Again !
February 1st, 2025 at 20:08I fear both DC & GH would say, Mk II had undeniable qualities, the ability to do Black Music convincingly wasn’t among them!
And I always questioned the wisdom of Big Ian attempting No More Cane On The Brazos as well, a good man should know his limits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=til4NlnsIRU
The Naked Thunder version is incredibly bland in comparison.
When Glenn delves deep into Black Music, it’s on another level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMMTvg426Y0
February 1st, 2025 at 23:59@ 6 – Uwe, you are a brave man indeed. Risking the wrath of Karin for starters & then being so critical of Ian Gillan’s performance of a song I have never heard before. I did listen to the old ‘traditional’ version first, that link you sent. That gets us right into the spirit of the song and also the story within.
This more recent Ian Gillan live version with the orchestra and other accompanying musicians is grand. I cannot believe you think that is missing the mark in any way. The second link is about 30 odd years ago me thinks, still a rather good rock band version and still within the spirit of the song. It is a cover version of a song, they are usually a little different in many situations. Personally I could easily think Glenn Hughes could very easily butcher that song. I could be wrong with that assumption, however he tends to over sing most of the time. Less is more and that is very well delivered by Ian Gillan and company in both of these versions. Cheers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJmUIHl5UQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxHSxNSSfos
February 2nd, 2025 at 02:02@7
February 2nd, 2025 at 10:19“Risking the wrath of Karin “ 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Today it’s Handball-final day, so I’m a 😺
This cover by the legendary author and performer is not good, especially for Gers, it would have been better if they had chosen “Superstition”…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1QV0b-Yy5M
February 2nd, 2025 at 11:06in my opinion a great cover and a great video, Gillan in great shape.
even handsome in a jacket and tie, I’m surprised Miss Karin didn’t make any special comments!
February 2nd, 2025 at 14:05but I personally think that No more cane on the Brazos is one of the songs that best represents BigIan’s eclecticism and one of his best vocal performances ever!
February 2nd, 2025 at 16:02The way Ian did it (= No More Cane On The Brazos), it sounds like a Celtic folk song, something from Riverdance. 😁 I fail to smell the molasses or feel the heat from the harvested sugar cane fields.
I love Ian’s voice, lyrics and demeanor, but he just isn’t a blues singer (nor ever claimed to be), that doesn’t mean that he cannot meddle with a blues-infused song in a pleasant way once in a while, but he’s not the type of white singer who can convincingly cross over at any point like Mick Jagger, Paul Rodgers, Mick Hucknall, James Dewar (Robin Trower) or Peter Wolf (J. Geils Band) to name but a few.
Steve, IIRC I read that LFTC was originally a band and not an Ian idea in liner notes from him or heard it in an interview. He did, however, also say/write that he liked the recorded outcome nonetheless and appreciated how it became a minor hit for them, their last one. GILLAN had recorded a couple of covers during the Magic sessions – mindful how some of their previous single hits like Trouble, Lucille and New Orleans had been covers (often proposed by Bernie Torme) -, but only LFTC made it onto the album (others were released as bonus tracks later on such as Smokestack Lightning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTDjD_UdJYs&t=212s
or Helter Skelter).
Unlike DC or GH who came from the part of England where Northern Soul reigned the dance clubs, I’m not aware that Ian was ever an avid Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye or James Brown aficionado. His roots lay in early rock’n’roll and when he liked black artists they were people like Chuck Berry or Little Richard, i.e. not blues, soul or funk artists. I do remember a statement by him about Come Taste The Band: “I did listen to Come Taste The Band (Uwe’s edit: unlike Burn or Stormbringer as albums) and I remember being stunned by the funk thing.”
Ian really only came into contact with more funky music in his IGB phase and that major fusion-funk influence was mainly the band’s do as Ian has readily admitted. And it’s the one musical phase in his past he has disowned the most and that is also the least popular among his fans. I find it hard to picture him putting on Innervisions at home, the Stevie Wonder album from which LFTC is from and which was released shortly after Ian’s departure from Mk II and the music business in general.
Let’s settle for this: When DC sang a song from a black artist it seemed a more natural fit to me, ok?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFo7Z2fKTVk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtmW2ek7WkQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8RGmv0NVXU
February 2nd, 2025 at 16:56@10
“in my opinion a great cover and a great video, Gillan in great shape.
even handsome in a jacket and tie, I’m surprised Miss Karin didn’t make any special comments!” <- 😃
Well well well! As I often have said, whenever Uwe is taunting me for being shallow and superficial, and of course completely indifferent to the more sophisticated things in life: Mr Gillan is indeed a very handsome man, he was when he was younger and he certainly still is, but for me he could look like a goblin, because I’m completely amazed by his voice!
And please remember this: when I heard Purple the first time, there was no YouTube, no MTV, no Google, only the record I had in my chubby little hands, so I really had no idea who the owner of this incredible and beautiful voice was!
February 2nd, 2025 at 22:23Ok? Ok!😃
@12
“ but he’s not the type of white singer who can convincingly cross over at any point like..” <- he doesn’t have to!
Every song he chooses to sing, is his the second he opens his mouth!
“When DC sang a song from a black artist it seemed a more natural fit to me, ok?” <- 🤣🤣🤣🤣
February 2nd, 2025 at 22:28Sorry sweetie but DC is a big fraud compared to IG! DC is completely absorbed with himself! It oozes from him that he believes he is cute, and I really can’t stand neither his voice nor his attitude!
You’ve said it, Ivica.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXqqcIFV_Mg
That’s not to say though that Ian could not accomplish great things if he sang to a funky backing, but for some reason that doesn’t appeal to most people here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA6drTt7alk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQTCbO0ZpJU
This is one unfunky place, I tell you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHcYFxU4fMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNrAFb3I2js
February 2nd, 2025 at 23:33Uwe
February 2nd, 2025 at 23:52We must have had different tracks on our albums in the UK to what you had in Germany…we had both New Orleans and No laughing in Heaven on Future Shock .
And, you just reminded me , I got a lovely picture disc album of Magic …its beautiful.
In fact , I got a free book thing with Future Shock
@ 10 – ha ha ha – “even handsome in a jacket and tie, I’m surprised Miss Karin didn’t make any special comments!” I think Karin is still trying to pick herself up from the floor. Cheers.
February 3rd, 2025 at 00:27How many times the funk, pop, even disco standards were converted to rock or metal covers? I love this tune, I love Gillan´s singing to death…
February 3rd, 2025 at 05:31As for Need You Love So Bad: very interesting choice but only Hammond leading over there is not enough for me – but anyway Lord and Coverdale contributions are excellent.
Karin,
February 3rd, 2025 at 12:37Congratulations on the gold. But, we’ll pay you back for this, sooner or later. 😊
@2 Dear Uwe, let me take a different perspective here. Gillan’s rendition of the song is indeed quite un-Afro-American and simplistic musically and devoid of the cultural meaning socially. Yet it matters mostly in the American cultural context, when they are all way too touchy feely about the heritage, and background etc. From the point of view of a European (and one from the Eastern Europe, to make the matters worse, he-he), if you make a step sideways, you already tread on someone else’s cultural tradition. So instead of suggesting your mille pardons, what you do is simply pick that tradition and make it your own. It’s a great song? Fine. Instead of making it a gallery exhibit, I’ll just sing it my own way. If we need to bring up Blackmore as an example, instead of Dylan’s song I’d rather mention “All for One”, which has been translated, covered, borrowed and butchered a thousand times and that still didn’t kill it.
To sum it up, I’ve listened a lot to Gillan’s version of LFTC when I was younger. It’s got drama, it’s got emotion, it’s got musicianship. I say let it rip.
February 3rd, 2025 at 13:13@19
Thanks so much Pacuha 😃
Yeah it was a great match wasn’t it!
Except for the guy who felt the need to stand on Mathias Gidsel’s leg.
That was not so kind of him. But we’ll both survived 😅
I am sure you win the next championship 😃
February 3rd, 2025 at 14:16“Well well well! As I often have said, whenever Uwe is taunting me for being shallow and superficial, and of course completely indifferent to the more sophisticated things in life: Mr Gillan is indeed a very handsome man, he was when he was younger and he certainly still is, but for me he could look like a goblin, because I’m completely amazed by his voice!”
So unfair, Karin, actually I think Herr Gillan a handsome man myself (unlike, say, Robert Halford). I’ve never held you as being “shallow and superficial”, you just have a woman’s approach to music which is fine (and unsurprising). I tend to over-analyze things in contrast.
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“Dear Uwe, let me take a different perspective here. Gillan’s rendition of the song is indeed quite un-Afro-American and simplistic musically and devoid of the cultural meaning socially.”
If we can agree on that, Georgivs, then I’m content. Yes, lyrics and their sociological context matter to me unless it is something like this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj0pzxGyvUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUwLPuc1WSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSNSTerj2Kc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDGbi1i8aBM
which is fine for what it wants to be too. Not everything needs to have a deeper meaning, but when it does, then banalizing it out of context aches me.
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Steve, where did I claim that New Orleans is on Magic? I just said it had been a single of a cover song before, of course it’s from Future Shock. My dementia hadn’t progressed that far yet! 😂
That said, Future Shock is the GILLAN album I listen to least because I find it their weakest one by a stretch with a horribly abrasive production even for the hardly hifi standards of the band. The sound of the album is painful to my ears.
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“Sorry sweetie but DC is a big fraud compared to IG! DC is completely absorbed with himself! It oozes from him that he believes he is cute, and I really can’t stand neither his voice nor his attitude!”
No contest from me, Karin, DC indeed wears his vanity on his sleeve. I find his attitude often shallow too though I have a hunch that his grandeur is a case of self-insulation against hurt. With the inability to ever sing again looming on the horizon (or already realized), I have doubts whether he is doing too well right now. But his vanity doesn’t make him a bad performer of black-imbued music.
DC has none of IG’s sly, yet perceptive humor and he’s lyrically clichéed, all that granted, but there was also a time when he could pour his real heart out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6YhdHN3pDI
Never mind that this is DC the 73-year old miming to how he sang it as a 26-year old … The way his voice almost cracks in emotional intensity is impressive. It’s one of the most honest and rawest love songs ever (see how romantic I can be?).
I don’t rate IG and DC in a better/worse fashion. They are two wholly different singers and both have had great moments. IG is still having them, with DC I’d wish his health picks up enough for him to get around to recording a piano-accompaniment-only album with his beautiful baritone voice even in its now damaged state in an age-adequate setting.
Ironically, Big Ian’s haphazard and low key approach to his solo albums would have done DC some good with WS where all releases since 1987 (the Into The Light solo album from 2000 excepted) have suffered from overproduction.
February 3rd, 2025 at 16:41I love this cover and also No More Cane On The Brazos..
February 3rd, 2025 at 17:09@22
“The way his voice almost cracks in emotional intensity is impressive”, ok now I’m really concerned, he has some health issues. I haven’t been reading about him so I don’t know if it’s public knowledge, but he is not in good health. (The song is lovely btw, but with a different singer ☺️)
“I don’t rate IG and DC in a better/worse fashion..” – well I do, because DC took over in the Purple universe, which he wasn’t quite equipped to be doing.
“overproduction” – can be ok if it is done with care. Here I think of Jeff Lynne (you know the illiterate british dude 😉) and his magnificent work with “Free as a bird”. He is known to be producing almost everything to pieces, but sometimes it really works! And done gently it’s ok.
I feel like I’m repeating myself here, but Ian’s voice is way stronger, and I guess Ian is older than David, but now as an almost-80 yo, Ian has much more power that David ever had.
And now this:
“I’ve never held you as being “shallow and superficial”, you just have a woman’s approach to music which is fine (and unsurprising). I tend to over-analyze things in contrast” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well my dear German over-analyst, if that isn’t accusing me of being shallow and superficial, what else would you call it?
Maybe I analyze too, but I’m not so fluent in English that I can express myself as well as you can! (But you ought to hear me in Danish 😂)
February 3rd, 2025 at 18:28@17
“I think Karin is still trying to pick herself up from the floor“ 😄😄
February 3rd, 2025 at 18:31I was actually on the floor, playing with my doglet Anton 😄
Why else should I be on the floor??? (I really would like an answer ☺️)
15@
February 3rd, 2025 at 19:59Danke Herr Uwe. I’ve never seen this. Glenn is great in both songs..,“Superstition”,that’s his musical terrain ( We all know that)and plays great band : Chad ,DeLeo brothers. Acoustic “Mistreated”.a little more Whitney Houston. He’s an artistic soul,great voice .I love him
@22 And, dear Uwe, if you want a bit of a hard edged and ‘genuine’ comment on the survival in the city from Gillan, here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eugj-k9o8Mw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO69enD7L-E
February 4th, 2025 at 07:25@22
“beautiful baritone” – so very sorry , I really don’t wanna me awful and evil here, but DC’s voice reminds me of Pee Wee Herman in certain places. I believe you can hear it too?
In that particular video you linked to, I especially think of these episodes:
1:02, 1:25, 1:47 (ohh that one is really bad 😰), 1:55, 2:33, 3:07, 3:29, 3:48, well, of course I don’t know his voice intimately, maybe that really is how he has always sounded, but if not, then he has serious problems.
Also his heavy breathing is concerning.
You’re completely right, it’s a beautiful and romantic song, (I miss Ian’s wink in the eye-lyrics though ☺️) but oh man DC ought to take better care of himself.
February 4th, 2025 at 11:06I hear Joe Cocker, Paul Rodgers and David Clayton Thomas (Blood, Sweat & Tears) in DC’s voice, but no Pee Wee Herman! 🤣
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nrqLiFf-Xc
And the Time & Again version I posted above was vocally recorded in 1978, it’s not his voice today (he couldn’t do that anymore, not in that key), just the piano accompaniment is from 2024. So DC as an old man is miming in the video to his voice as it was almost 50 years ago.
“DC took over in the DP universe which he wasn’t quite equipped to be doing. ” – no, he didn’t, he was invited on the strength of his beautiful baritone voice, months after Ian Gillan had jumped ship (post-DP, Ian didn’t even want to sing anymore for a while, remember?).
This performance, heard by Ian Paice at the time, got DC the job with Purple, it was on his audition tape at the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMl13GrrtmE
And if you want to go further back, in the late 60s, DC sounded like this (as a 17-year-old!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvFT3l8tm4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVXHRmTQCtk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqQdCftR1RQ
That voice was good enough to register with Jon Lord at the time: DP Mk I played one of its last gigs in the North of England with David’s then band – The Government – opening. Jon – after having heard him – asked (and received) David’s address “in case the new singer (namely Ian Gillan) shouldn’t work out”. Of course, Ian did work out, so DC didn’t hear again until he himself sent his audition tape after Gillan’s departure in 1973.
Also, Jon Lord generally prefers gravelly baritone voices such as DC, Tony Ashton, Elmer Gantry (Stretch) or Miller Anderson to male songers with high voices. He didn’t like the way DC started to sing higher and higher in the late WS years and was aghast when “a man with as beautiful a baritone voice as David” attempted Robert Plant’esque helium highs.
“Well my dear German over-analyst, if that isn’t accusing me of being shallow and superficial, what else would you call it?”
I’d call it “deeply emotionally attached”, i.e. the exact opposite of shallow or superficial! It’s a widespread female affliction this emotion thing (so I’ve heard). 😎
But do you really have to denigrate DC to elevate IG, isn’t your beloved Ian good enough to stand on his own merits? IG has a tenor voice that only in the last 20 years or so has gained some low range depth – Ian even says so himself, stating that he never sang low as a young man because he felt he didn’t have the convincing volume and power to do it. Where Ian felt insecure, DC was confident as he’s a baritone by nature, albeit one who attempted to cover high tenor territory too in his later career – an ill-advised move as it neither sounded all that great (DC is a way more expressive singer when he sings low, a song like the much overrated ‘Still Of The Night’ has him sounding like a strangled chicken!) nor was it good or even natural for his vocal chords.
Live and let live.
February 4th, 2025 at 17:22@ 25 – Meaning that you collapsed in ecstasy from being overwhelmed by all the Ian Gillan articles and the image of Gillan wearing a jacket and a tie. Just a little fun Karin, looking at it all. Cheers.
February 4th, 2025 at 23:19@29
“And the Time & Again version I posted above was vocally recorded in 1978, it’s not his voice today (he couldn’t do that anymore, not in that key), just the piano accompaniment is from 2024. So DC as an old man is miming in the video to his voice as it was almost 50 years ago.” 🤔
Ok if that is true (and not for one minute am I implying that you’re not telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!) then DC had ruined his health and voice in a very very young age!
Can’t you detect the problems he had when he tried to sing? And the way he breathed 🫣😨
Thank you for the links of him singing as a, what 17 yo?!, well he could never make me forget time and place like some other vocalist can, I have to say he tries too hard to be something he isn’t!
“But do you really have to denigrate DC to elevate IG, isn’t your beloved Ian good enough to stand on his own merits?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am not criticising DC unfairly!
I am being honest and open to all new things, but I also like to have the possibility to call things what they are! And DC is a mediocre vocalist!
And can I say that, when I am not able to sing to save my own life?
Yes I can, because I have never tried to take over from Ian Gillan! I wouldn’t dare (and my compassion for other people wouldn’t allow me to!)
“a song like the much overrated ‘Still Of The Night’ has him sounding like a strangled chicken!) nor was it good or even natural for his vocal chords.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
For once we see eye to eye here!
Uwe, can you in all honesty mention one single tune that Ian hasn’t sung to perfection?
I for sure can not! Not even when he was in IGB 😉
“Live and let live” – is that another 007-movie song?!☺️
February 5th, 2025 at 18:02@30
I nearly did MacGregor, but please don’t tell anyone, especially not (whisper: U W E ) 😂🤣
February 5th, 2025 at 18:05@29
Oh I just dawned on me:
I was watching an episode of Castle, and then I saw it all clear as daylight on a bright sunny day:
DC and the other guy who sounds like a boy, they lack something very very important!
February 5th, 2025 at 18:13Ian Gillan has self-irony! He can make fun of him self, while the other two take themselves very seriously 😝
It is so refreshing with people who don’t think they are the most important person who ever waddled in a puddle 🤣🤣🤣
Karin
Especially for you !
https://youtu.be/cFQyOzSc0yY?si=FEzEHM_UtFAsHN_c
Wrong thread I know , but …who cares !
February 5th, 2025 at 19:14@29
February 5th, 2025 at 19:58Forgot completely:
The first link, I thought it was this guy here (well until the singing began)
https://youtu.be/o8ByJ1C0iR4?si=dgQkg_RhdX7L-n7-
HA was maybe not the world’s greatest singer, but there is something in his voice that are so honest and, well, kind! Yes, kind and sincere 😊
I‘m totally with you that Big Ian has a better sense of humor than the other two. Glenn can be goofy and DC‘s humor is pretty much restricted to often labored and cheesy double entendres, from “Madam Palm and her five sweet daughters“ in Bloody Mary to “G-string tuned to A” in Kitten’s Got Claws.
But we were talking about singing!
February 5th, 2025 at 20:52@ 31: “I am being honest and open to all new things, but I also like to have the possibility to call things what they are! And DC is a mediocre vocalist!”
Karin, Karin, Karin … A mediocre vocalist. David Coverdale. Errrr… While EP is a butter tenor. I am beginning to get your drift now … Have you ever heard that overrated Caruso guy?
February 6th, 2025 at 15:05Karin is the Keeperess of the Gillanverse’s Flame – thou shalt not have any other deities … 😂
We must all consider ourselves lucky that
– a band as potentially nondescript as DP
– which apparently saw a multitude of untalented musicians passing through its ranks
– still had the incredible luck of having been found worthy by the one and only Mr Universe/Gillan to be graced by his on-and-off presence and thus be elevated from its abyss or mediocrity at least some of the time.
ALL HAIL GILLAN !!!
In the meantime, I will continue to see Purple as more of a holistic concept than just an assembly of people only as good as the individual skills and traits of its members.
February 6th, 2025 at 18:53@34
Thank you Steve 😃
“Wrong thread I know , but …who cares !“ – exactly!
February 6th, 2025 at 22:12Isn’t there always room and time to discuss and dwell on the current vocalist of Purple 😉
@36
“But we were talking about singing!“ 😄 indeed we were!
I have a serious problem with people who can’t make fun, especially of themselves!
@37
“Karin, Karin, Karin … A mediocre vocalist. David Coverdale. Errrr… While EP is a butter tenor. I am beginning to get your drift now … Have you ever heard that overrated Caruso guy” 🤣
You say WHO?! 🤓
Let me tell you who I adore singing:
https://youtu.be/OorZcOzNcgE?si=b5V8yBHtP1kKzYvH
https://youtu.be/IKFM6mQqRn8?si=iUXs4TO4zkoCP11V
https://youtu.be/-6X0rOC32AA?si=gcUcNFePyKCW8laG
https://youtu.be/4BgF7Y3q-as?si=5nu1M6XGNErTRj8R
Oh I might have forgot:
https://youtu.be/BGLGzRXY5Bw?si=CdoTaAjE1o4f_AmH
There are actually a lot more! Sweet not to forget, Lindsey Buckingham, Jeff Lynne, Dan Baird and of course Sting:
https://youtu.be/aWjfONP51G4?si=ecEAdOdmqrY-Whrh
Yes, there are a few I dislike, but why waste one’s time on bad vocalists when we can enjoy this fine example of a brilliant singer:
https://youtu.be/7Xna21FU2QE?si=bWHY74W3djMQIX5i
I have around 24 hours in a day, I spend almost 7 hours to sleep, and between all the chores I have to take care of everyday, I will not waste my valuable time on bad singers 😄
@38
February 6th, 2025 at 22:41“In the meantime, I will continue to see Purple as more of a holistic concept than just an assembly of people only as good as the individual skills and traits of its members.” – sweetie I agree completely with you here! But Ian Gillan can also do a lot of marvellous things on his own! With Purple everything add up to the very very best 😍
I have a question to ask you great people in here:
When ever Ritchie has been playing his brilliant music, he now and then opens his mouth, not rhythmically, actually there is no pattern in his opening and closing of his mouth!
Sometimes he looks like a fish that has just been pulled ashore,
Please take a look here:
https://youtu.be/Ex5kQUBW1SE?si=Vh0hEfKjynSqZZMl
I really don’t want to be disrespectful here, but I just wonder why he does that?
February 6th, 2025 at 22:46Is it normal practice amongst guitar-players?
@39 “I will continue to see Purple as more of a holistic concept” – fair enough. To me DP is like a collective J.S. Bach or even the whole Bach family.
“just an assembly of people only as good as the individual skills and traits of its members” – and that would be LZ no matter how they try to whitewash themselves:
February 7th, 2025 at 08:44https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/debauched-truth-led-zeppelin-documentary-141500749.html
Frankly, Georgivs, the Satanism and teenage groupie stuff surrounding Zep never interested me, I found it neither abhorring nor fascinating or admirably cool, it’s part of their mythology though. I’m not sure whether DP (Blackmore and Gillan did likely not get their hepatitis bouts from drinking orange juice either) or any other 70s rock band behaved substantially better on the road – the Eagles always claimed they had better stories to tell -, there was perhaps less focus on them. Sexual intercourse with a live groupie in a shark carcass is of course an acquired taste, but if the shark’s bereaved family consented, who am I to criticize? Besides, one of the protagonists was a drummer, you do have to make allowances for these people.
My concern with Led Zep was always more why there was so goddamn much billowing echo on their records or why their drummer dragged so obstinately behind the beat and the bass couldn’t be properly heard than whether Jimmy Page was bedding minors or wearing a swastika-embellished German officer’s hat or not. Call me callous, but I never saw rock bands as role models for responsible social interaction. Whenever young men are in a group, they are anything but – and the wolf pack is never far away.
But I do not deny that Zep had chemistry as a band, quite to the contrary I believe that was very much in evidence with them (even if the results didn’t speak to me). That doesn’t mean (nor necessitate) that they were good friends too, but I think that everyone of them was pivotal for Zep’s success, Jones and Bonham just as much as Page and Plant, even if the latter two caught more of the limelight.
There is this popular conception that Led Zep was basically just Jimmy Page with the three others merely executing his vision – I don’t agree. And I think his lackluster and underwhelming career following the demise of one of the top-five biggest bands in the world shows that he never found that chemistry that was key to Led Zep’s success again. Without Plant, Jones and Bonham he’s basically lost – it’s almost tragic, because I’m sure he would have had more music in him.
I should get high marks from Herr MacGregor for this – I just defended Led Zep! And hopefully haven’t offended the shark’s family.
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Karin, Ritchie doesn’t really breathe, he just apes it – the man is from another planet! 👽
February 7th, 2025 at 15:09Dare I make the remark that in Karin’s selection of favorite singers (Ian, Liam, Lennon, Lynne, Sting, Lindsey Buckingham, Brian Connolly, Dan Baird & Bowie) there is very little Blues & Soul (or dare I say: black) content (that so much shaped Elvis’, DC’s, GH’s and even JoLT’s vocal styles). And they are nearly all Brits (mostly English even, only Connolly hailed from Scotland) with the exception of Buckingham and Baird.
A very Anglophile, Euro-centric taste our Viking maiden has. 😎 Très Scandinavian! In their mind they always think they’re Brits though they are very much more German by cultural relation. 😋
February 7th, 2025 at 15:33@ 41 -haven’t you noticed in rock music Karin that most rock lead guitarists express a plethora of different looks at times while playing. There are a few who look like they are being tortured, some who are simply going through the (e)motions & others that wander in and out of a selection twisted facial expressions that may make us wonder about the enjoyment of it all. It is the way it is, with electric lead guitarists that is. Bass guitarists do it a little at times, drummers a fair bit with all that physical exertion, keyboard players not a lot & anyone else nothing at all really. Oh, sorry, I forgot about lead vocalists, might as well throw most of them in with the lead guitarists. It is rock ‘n roll it seems. All that prancing & poncing about the place. Cheers.
February 7th, 2025 at 22:12And why do nearly all female singers – in talent shows and on stage – always wave their hands (Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston and Christina Aguilera were all great proponents) when singing vibrato or melismatic parts as if their hands are somehow magically connected to their vocal cords? 😂 I know that women’s bodies are an opaque mystery to men, but I haven’t heard that anatomical theory yet …
Speaking of mannerisms, no other drummer sticks out his tongue as cutely as Ian “Froggy” Paice, always hoping to catch that fly. Or like Ed the hyena from The Lion King …
https://media.tenor.com/8y6PdLesdZ0AAAAM/ed-hyena.gif
And the most affected thing about Ritchie playing guitar was/is his habit (increasing with age) to take his fretting hand off the fretboard, shake it impatiently and then resume playing as if he had got his fingers tied up in a knot. When other guitarists ape Blackmore visually for fun, this is always in their bag of tricks.
With Jon, his mannerism was always of course to stand fully erect at the Hammond, chest to the fore and then flinging his head back for dramatic impact. 😂 That or the alternative: butt to the rear, shoulders down and crouched over the keyboards. I do miss those antics sometimes, Don has more the air of an IT specialist on a programming assignment when playing keyboards with Purple. 🤓
February 8th, 2025 at 16:53@ 43 – “Besides, one of the protagonists was a drummer, you do have to make allowances for these people.” About time Uwe, better late than never. I suppose it is or was that certain drummers are just keeping everything primal then, as with the beat, rhythm etc. Not sure about Georgivs@ 42 trying to turn a ‘blind eye’ there in regards to other bands including Purple. However a bit of tawdry journalism goes a long way eh? Yes I am in shock Uwe, so to speak as that Zeppelin ‘compliment’ is the second one in as many weeks, I like it. I do agree though with Page being ‘lost’ without the other guys, a waste indeed in some aspects. He has mentioned over the years and quite often that he is ‘working’ on new music etc, alas nothing appears. On the other hand I respect that he is ‘retired’ as such. If he ever did compose & release any new music I wouldn’t be interested in Page playing more blues or rock music though, get into more instrumental acoustic and orchestral music perhaps. Those different tuning things he excelled at. I always liked his soundtrack album music to the ‘Death Wish II’ movie back in the 1980’s. There is still hope although Father Time is ever so close now. Cheers.
February 8th, 2025 at 23:48@45
“haven’t you noticed in rock music Karin that most rock lead guitarists express a plethora of different looks at times while playing. There are a few who look like they are being tortured, some who are simply going through the (e)motions & others that wander in and out of a selection twisted facial expressions that may make us wonder about the enjoyment of it all.”
You’re right MacGregor 😃
But in the early 70s Blackmore moved his lips in a way, so it seemed like he formed the notes with his lips while he was playing.
But later there was no meaning in his movement with his face 😅
MacGregor, do you have Marmite in Tasmania?
February 9th, 2025 at 08:34We visited some English friends this weekend and I tasted Marmite (never tasted it before) and I really love it 🥰
They told me that they believe in Australia and Tasmania there is a similar product, maybe with another brand-name so I would like to ask you about that.
And if there is, do you like it?
Apparently Marmite is either a ‘love or hate’ product 😄
@44
“A very Anglophile, Euro-centric taste our Viking maiden has. 😎 Très Scandinavian! In their mind they always think they’re Brits though they are very much more German by cultural relation. 😋”
😆🤣😆🤣
Well I would love to listen to German vocalist, had there been any worth listening to!
Why is it so important the music/vocalists I like?
I also really like George Benson, isn’t he from US?
And I really like….. oh well why do I even bother!?
No matter what I say you have a way of twisting everything! 😓
I do feel more German than English! Yes, because our languages are alike in so many ways.
February 9th, 2025 at 09:51@43 It’s truly heartwarming how Sir Uwe jumped to the defense of the Zep bunch. Well, I wasn’t really attacking them. The authors of their unauthorized biographies do a much better job of that. My point was that that DP vs LZ to me is music vs attitude. DP to me is five guys doing music. This is why they have not been trendy since 1974 or something. When the MTV era started, they would not bother to produce one half-decent vid. They were still five guys doing music on stage. They lost the competition to the likes of AC/DC, ZZ Top and even Maiden because those bands were so much more visual than DP. And yet this is what makes DP so timeless. Child in Time and Perfect Strangers are not attached to the cultural context of the times when they were made. This is pure music in its own dimension.
On the opposite, LZ were about the attitude first and the music second (and I don’t deny the quality and significance of their music). And when it comes to the attitude, personalities matter. It matters how much Bonzo drank and what demons Pagey worshiped. These things firmly anchor LZ in the glorious and excessive ’70s.
When I hear old Purple songs, I am transitioning into their own musical universe, akin to the one the great Baroque composers created. When I hear Zep songs, they just awake some nostalgia in me.
February 9th, 2025 at 13:23@44
Forgot about this guy:
https://youtu.be/a502RejLz8s?si=tsOPvVcdY3fBv7Pz
And his friend:
https://youtu.be/muXgMXU0Euk?si=fmws6eZPQmqWej75
February 9th, 2025 at 16:05@ 48 – Vegemite is our own version of Marmite I would say Karin. A ‘iconic’ Australian product. I do classify as a Vegemite kid I suppose, discovered it when very young and still enjoy it regularly. I do remember trying Marmite and not really liking it, it was ok and plenty of other people did like it more than Vegemite. Maybe I was too used to our own. My vague memory of Marmite is that it was sweeter where ours isn’t sweet at all. I should be getting paid for all this endorsement all the way over to Denmark. I will contact the company and see if I can make something out of this. Knowing companies these days they will probably send around a crate of the product & thank me in some patriotic way. Cheers.
https://www.nma.gov.au/exhibitions/defining-symbols-australia/vegemite
February 9th, 2025 at 21:47Georgivs @ 50 – the tawdry journalists & their take on anything just to get more sales & recognition. They will print anything and that article says it all. Regarding the ‘attitude’ thing, I don’t know about Zeppelin or at least Page, Plant and Jones putting the music second. They were serious musicians in their own right. The crap, meaning their ensuring attitude & all that rubbish comes with success doesn’t it. Well for some it does, not every rock band behaved in a rebellious debauched way & also threw their toys out of their pram. John Paul Jones wasn’t really a part of all that either, he actually left the band in ’73 because of that and was then coerced back into staying on, subject to conditions no doubt. And let’s not forget Deep Purple and their attitude at times, especially Blackmore & Gillan. Rebellious characters there big time. Then the drug & booze rubbish that permeated throughout MKIII and MKIV. Purple had an opportunity to put it right with the 1984 reunion & everything that has followed after the naughty 70’s. Zeppelin as we know ended at the end of the 70’s (1980) & are stuck with that image & reputation. The Who are similar to Purple in a way, they had a chance to clean things up after Keith Moon’s death & they did, going on well after all their 1970’s attitude. Cheers.
February 9th, 2025 at 22:10@46
“And the most affected thing about Ritchie playing guitar was/is his habit (increasing with age) to take his fretting hand off the fretboard, shake it impatiently and then resume playing as if he had got his fingers tied up in a knot.“
There is actually a reason why he did that, but then I have to go into homeopathic explanation again….
Why he opens and close his mouth like that, no explanation what so ever!
February 10th, 2025 at 06:49@52
Vegemite!
We don’t have anything like that in Denmark.
“I should be getting paid for all this endorsement all the way over to Denmark. I will contact the company and see if I can make something out of this.” <- exactly 😄
February 10th, 2025 at 10:30And if you succeed please send me some Vegemite! I guess you can get my address from Uwe ☺️😉
“@43 It’s truly heartwarming how Sir Uwe jumped to the defense of the Zep bunch.”
Georgivs, you just did it, NEVER have I been insulted as DEEPLY with as few words in this forum of fora! 🤣😂😁
But I get it, Zep were always more entertaining and outrageous than Purple with their outside-of-music antics.
My favorite risque tale from the road is however not from Led Zeppelin or Deep Purple, but from Mr Gene Simmons aka Eugene Klein aka Chaim Witz, formerly bass player of a more visually oriented US rock band …
–> NSFW (not safe for work) !!! <–
Many moons ago, Herr Simmons divulged in a lengthy feature in Larry Flint's HUSTLER (a piece of high quality US media devoted to insightful interviews alongside some recreational pictorial content) how he was once approached after a KISS concert in a come-hither fashion by a novice from a Catholic convent:
"She wasn't a real nun yet, but she wore a habit already. And she wanted me to put on my stage outfit and the make-up while she wore the habit, I guess she wanted to be taken from behind by this huge horned beast. Needless to say, I obliged. What more can a Jewish kid from Queens ask for than to have been given the chance to fuck a Catholic nun?! I'll die a content man."
I thought that was a heartwarming story at the time, the American Dream can fulfill itself in many ways, a land of golden opportunities so to say. And I'm sure the novice repented at some point, so it's all clean slate for her again too. Catholicism is merciful in that way. More appetizing than the shark incident too if you ask me.
Wanted to share this with you so we're not just writing about Vegemite and Marmite though these products doubtlessly have their committed fans – and possibly recreational uses – too. Alas!, do not thank me, the pleasure was all mine.
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Karin, I'm aware that Ritchie has issues with arthritis and that it runs in his family, that for a time he wore some copper bracelet against it 🙄 and all that, but those impatient looks at his hands were a stage act as part of his eccentric, yet artistic 'lone guitar god' image. Ritchie was always a vain man and knew how to set a scene for himself.
February 10th, 2025 at 17:35@56
“Karin, I’m aware that Ritchie has issues with arthritis and that it runs in his family,”
Yeah ok, than can explain his swollen wrists, but that’s not the homeopathic explanation I was thinking about!
Actually moving his hand like that can make the pain worse….
Just heard this one:
https://youtu.be/XCnpOcxVvuA?si=g0aG2GLcXwndXLp5
Had completely forgotten all about Simple Minds, they are really not half-bad!
February 10th, 2025 at 18:52@ 56 – “Wanted to share this with you so we’re not just writing about Vegemite and Marmite though these products doubtlessly have their committed fans – and possibly recreational uses – too. Alas!, do not thank me, the pleasure was all mine.” That is nice Uwe, to see that you have a ‘cosmopolitan’ taste of all things. Cheers.
February 10th, 2025 at 21:46Simple Minds, Karin? Not bad, but these guys did that type of music even better (those hymnic chorus parts …), from Belfast just like Simon McBride:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqpe_NCE4yk
February 11th, 2025 at 01:13@59
You think they did it better? Ok… 😉☺️
Just listened to this :
https://youtu.be/_Kh_AGh3Gqs?si=_LDLXURNRgTZ4aRp
And now a silly question:
February 11th, 2025 at 08:01The ‘thing’ Ed is doing, is that tapping?
Another question:
Can bass players do the same?
Karin, Paul Simon is a “friend” of Art Garfunkel in about as much as Ritchie is a friend of Big Ian, probably however less so! 😂 Not that Paul Simon is a man easy to get along with, some Woody Allen’esque neurosis there.
I also note that you accuse Glenn Hughes of “not singing like a grown man” which Art Garfunkel, that rodent-loving
https://whiskanddine.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/img_3605-670×1024.jpg
milk bread of a falsetto singer, to your ears obviously does … 🤣
February 11th, 2025 at 14:12@61
Paul Simon is an adorable musician who writes poetic lyrics!
Too bad they’re frenemies now 😟
I often listen to their concert in Central Park 🥰
But man you’re right re Art 😂
There is a diff though: Art G is an intriguing and unique character 🤣
Singing like a grown man has nothing to do with singing in falsetto! You’re a grown man when you can stand up for yourself !
Thanks for the, uhm, delicious photo 🤓
February 11th, 2025 at 22:32I like to eat rabbit. And hare too. I even tried guinea pig in South America, that was exactly like rabbit.
I’m not aware that Eddie does any tapping in the song you posted, Karin, it’s from a later stage on VH’s career and by that time Eddie often tried to avoid it because he felt pigeon holed by it as if it was the only thing he could do as a guitarist (he was much more versatile).
Sure, a bassist can tap too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqhNo6FJrek
Whether that substantially benefits the music in any form or shape is another matter though. It sure impresses 14-year-olds, it’s bass athletics. 🤐
February 11th, 2025 at 23:50Art Garfunkel & Paul Simon recently had a get together of sorts. Art reached out from what I read and apologised etc. Time is of the essence, they have been friends for a long long time, from when they were very young. As the saying goes, when like family, disagreements sometimes happen. Their relationship is very different to some other ‘rock’ musicians who have petty falling outs. Cheers.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/nov/11/i-was-a-fool-art-garfunkel-describes-tearful-reunion-with-paul-simon
February 12th, 2025 at 00:00@63
Ohh, so at 0:10 and two seconds more, that isn’t tapping?
What about 1:29 to 1:31?
So you love the animals so much you don’t wanna eat their food? Lettuce, cucumbers etc? ☺️
Well I eat meat too, but not from animals I could have as a pet, that’s horses, dogs (as they do in Indonesia among other countries), rabbits or hares, and def not smaller birds.
I wish I had the strength to go all vegan, but my sweetheart loves meat and well, I’m apparently too lazy to make two dishes every day 🫣
In Denmark there has been some revealing programs regarding how awful pigs are treated so now I have a difficult time eating frikadeller and leverpostej 😟
Thanks for the link, oh that young man is quite athletic 😃
February 12th, 2025 at 13:16Why this: 🤐?
Do there exist any videos of you playing the bass? (Or even better: singing?) I would LOVE to see that 😃
@64
Ohh MacGregor that is truly amazing 😃 I am so thrilled when people can be friends instead of enemies 🥰 life is so short, never waste it on bad things when we can be nice to each other instead 💜
February 12th, 2025 at 13:30Thanks for the link 😃
Most duos begin to hate each other at one point, especially if they are successful and each one starts believing he’s more important than the other.
Of course, Paul Simon was always the songwriter and arranger brain of the duo and he can sing his songs by himself too, but Art’s harmony voice had a ethereal quality that had a hell of a lot to do with S&G’s enormous success. Paul’s comment “I didn’t need Artie.” as quoted in the GUARDIAN is typical “‘I do all the work anyhow.”-hubris.
It’s actually quite similar to how Blackmore felt when leaving Purple in 1975 – the assumption that their contribution to his songwriting and guitar performance could somehow be just as well replaced by hiring a bunch of good players who would be required to follow his every whim. We saw how that turned out.
Paul Simon continued to be successful and wrote music of great artistic value, but since his Graceland heydays also retreated more and more into an esoteric niche, far removed from Simon & Garfunkel’s widespread and multi-generational appeal as a band you would like even if you were mostly a hard rocker, your girlfriend would love and even your and your girlfriend’s parents would dig without either of you minding or feeling awkward about it. 😁
February 12th, 2025 at 14:28“Well I would love to listen to German vocalist, had there been any worth listening to!”
Best German rock and blues vocalist ever? Since you asked: HEINER PUDELKO of Interzone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ONQ6kG4AzY
who left us as still a young man due to an incurable brain tumor, very tragic, he was peerless:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1mbr-mObCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66PC6w9HY78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBshd0S3Tl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGuJZb6aB6o
(just listen to how he soars into the chorus at 01:08, for me that is in the league of Robert Halford/Glenn Hughes/Ian Gillan/Graham Bonnet)
Interzone’s style of gruff and urban Berlin backyard rhythm & blues didn’t catch on and when they finally folded (also under drug issues, they were a smack/heroin band), Heiner turned more pop, but he was still great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ0ecrE_9Dw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwDyAn5ML4
Since his premature death in the 90s, I’ve never heard anyone from Germany sing remotely like him. He effortlessly merged traditional 1920s/30s style German Bel Canto singing with gritty urban Blues, had an incredible range from baritone to falsetto and sang Deutsch in a way no one has since done: Neither Schlager nor trying to Americanize it, which you simply can’t, he had an approach all of his own.
He was only 46 when cancer finally got him, what a loss. These days he would have likely survived. 😥
February 12th, 2025 at 17:21@67
“Most duos begin to hate each other at one point, especially if they are successful and each one starts believing he’s more important than the other.” – yeah 😞 unfortunately that is also the situation when the duo is related to each other.
I wonder if Karen hadn’t died, would she and Richard have stayed together?
And now to something completely different (as MP would have said it):
February 12th, 2025 at 17:38The food prices in Denmark are ridiculous now! So I have decided to go to your country once a month to buy all the groceries and necessities 😊
I’m just mentioning this, not to alarm you, but to tell you what a marvellous country you live in! ☺️
@68
Ok Interzone is, well, was great, (do they still perform without Heiner Pudelko?) and I for sure do see your interest in them: oh man the bass is heavy here! (And nice!)
And I do get the comparisons between HP and, well ok only, IG!
I’m sorry he died so young 🥺
Actually, not to bring my profession into all conversations, but there have been a vast amount of exactly that terrible illness, in our area.
February 12th, 2025 at 20:57Some doctors had this theory that it was caused by the accident in the nuclear plant not so far away for us in the 80s😞
Are we now beginning to have migration issues from the North too?
😂🤣😂
What a food smuggler queen you are!
From a German point of view, all of Scandinavia was always outrageously food price expensive. I put that down to you guys joining the EU comparatively late and protecting your – not really competitive given climate and soil – agriculture.
February 12th, 2025 at 21:06“I wonder if Karen hadn’t died, would she and Richard have stayed together?”
Cooking for her more often would have certainly helped.
February 12th, 2025 at 21:11@71
Yeah, I don’t know the exact reason, but I find Germany to be much more affordable 😊
@72
February 12th, 2025 at 22:57I’m afraid you’re wrong there. It wasn’t lack of food that caused her death 😥
It was papers, magazines, taunting of her being a little chubby, that made something tilt in her mind. She was ill, but no one knew how to cure her 🥺
@ 67- a rather different scenario Uwe with Blackmore’s attitude to other musicians regarding the songwriting side to it all. He isn’t that silly to think that others cannot get the job done and as we all know he wasn’t the only (sole) songwriter. Purple doesn’t operate like that, a lot of bands don’t. However with Simon & Garfunkel it was also the differences in personalities that became a thorn in their respective sides, not just the artistic musical side to it. Yes the songwriter gets the credit & how very well Paul Simon did write, both for the duo & his solo material up to and including the Hearts and Bones album of 1982. I did buy the vinyl of Graceland and enjoyed a lot of that album at that time. However he did paint himself into a corner there and I will not be purchasing the cd of that album. It was played to death everywhere back then and I became bored with it anyway. I never purchased anything else of Simon’e after that as it seemed to have that same flavour to it in may ways. Regarding Art & yes he didn’t write any songs and that obviously would create an issue or two no doubt. There is a moment on that 2003 concert I have on dvd, where Art is praising Simon for his wonderful songs, something he does a few times during the concert and with genuine affection. He then sarcastically drops in the line, ‘I always thought that the name should have been alphabetical’. Simon pauses and look towards Art and says, ‘you should do that’. Oh dear, even in a ‘comedic’ moment there was still a little bit of argy bargy. Not to worry, they are both wonderful musicians. I went to a concert in 2009, pure nostalgia of course but what a night it was. Those two together with a cracking band performing all those songs. Magic and Art was in very good voice after warming up his vocal cords. They did perform a couple of ‘solo’ pieces, Paul Simon with two songs from Graceland if my memory serves me well & Art did Bright Eyes and another song that I wasn’t familiar with, a cover song no doubt. Great songs always win out in the end, no matter what. Cheers.
February 12th, 2025 at 23:40@ 65 – “Do there exist any videos of you playing the bass? (Or even better: singing?) I would LOVE to see that 😃”
February 13th, 2025 at 02:04Be careful what you wish for Karin. While I have never heard Uwe singing and I should give him the benefit of the doubt regarding that. I fear it could very well be the total opposite of the Allo Allo scenes in Renés cafe. Uwe’s wife Edith will be the one blocking her ears with cheese or anything else she can get hold of in desperation. Cheers.
@75
With the attitude Uwe presents in here, I’m completely sure he sings even better than Ian! 😄
Now he has to prove it! 😍
February 13th, 2025 at 07:38I’m not much of a singer, I can do a bit of backing vocals if I put my mind to it, but nothing in the least fancy. The Beach Boys wouldn’t have wanted to have me, I assure you. But in one of my alt rock bands, a musically very satisfying project at the time, I was responsible for writing all the harmony vocal lines our singer double tracked in the studio because she – self-taught and talented as she was – didn’t know what singing a third or fifth meant (which we only learned about in the studio so I really had to make do!).
If you want to hear me play bass, Karin, just send me an email (you’ll find me on the web) and I can send you an older demo. I haven’t recorded anything in a while. Warning: I’m not really a hard rock player anymore (I used to be), these days I look for melody in a bass line above all else.
February 13th, 2025 at 14:57@77
I can’t find you 🥺😥
February 13th, 2025 at 16:48@ 78
Karin,
He’s right here, hiding in plain sight: https://www.cliffordchance.com/people_and_places/people/lawyers/de/uwe-hornung.html
Took me 5-6 seconds to find him. I’m even easier to find.
February 13th, 2025 at 21:41@79
Thanks you! I did find him, I was just in a hurry, but later on with warm coffee in a cup, I was just more calm and collected 😄
You’re easier to find! Ok…
February 13th, 2025 at 22:12Danke Dilligaf, I was just about to say, I’ve never hid from the overwhelming public curiosity that follows me everywhere I go!
Karin, your online research capabilities are plain abysmal! 😂
February 13th, 2025 at 23:02@81
February 14th, 2025 at 14:48Sweetie, I’ll tell you a secret:
Women are often said to be very good at multitasking, but we aren’t, not one bit…
I did find you by my own initiative 😃
I just had too much to take care of when I tried first time.
And you are not the only one in the world who are named Uwe Hornung!
I am though the only one who are named Karin Verndal 😄
And forgot to say this:
February 14th, 2025 at 14:49Our very own Uwe is a genius playing the bass 😍🤩
@81 RE: “Karin, your online research capabilities are plain abysmal!” Lets see if that’s true… (see below)
@ 82 Karin, if you can find me by the end of the weekend (midnight PST), send me an e-mail & I’ll reward you with a deep Purple concert bootleg or maybe an unreleased (non AI-generated) DP song. 🙂
February 15th, 2025 at 08:53@84
Oh what a treat 😃
(Please help me somebody 🤓)
February 15th, 2025 at 11:08Karin,
Don’t overthink it… the solution is staring you right in the face.
I’ll give you another 24 hours…
February 17th, 2025 at 08:10@86
I am not very bright! Sorry I have to reveal that in here 🫣
Even if I got 24 months, I would still be here, scratch my head and wonder what is going on!
February 17th, 2025 at 09:45Karin,
Don’t say that you’re not very bright; I don’t get that impression at all.
It’s really late here (2:00 AM) & I have to go into work early… so I’ll leave you with one last clue (the answer is literally 1 second away from your fingertips):
“Why am I so blue”? Think about it…
Godnat
February 17th, 2025 at 10:03@88
February 18th, 2025 at 09:05Well, I’m not but I take good care of animals, that’s something isn’t it ☺️😉
Karin,
If you want to see yourself that way I’m not going to try to dissuade you. It’s your prerogative to see yourself however you want to.
Of course you’re good at taking care of animals, after all, you are married. 🙂
February 19th, 2025 at 01:35@90
“Of course you’re good at taking care of animals, after all, you are married. 🙂” – 🤣🤣🤣
You’re right of course!😂
February 19th, 2025 at 07:55However I was thinking of Anton, our little doglet (Danish-Swedish Farmdog, 7 yo, still acts like a puppy 🥰)