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Play a little something
In this instalment of Tales from the Tavern, Ritchie Blackmore plays a tune that he heard in ’64 or ’65. That’d be 1564-65, presumably.
[Update]: the decidedly un-Motown-ish tune actually dates back to the 18th, not 16th century. It is Minuet in G major by German composer Christian Petzold (often misattributed to J.S. Bach):
Unauthorized copying, while sometimes necessary, is never as good as the real thing
Stereotyping is everywhere … 😎 Trust people reared on white hard rock like DP to automatically compartmentalize a Black girl group from the 60s as ‘Motown’.
But The Toys were from NYC, not Detroit, and never on the Motown record label either – just like Deep Purple weren‘t Heavy Metal, duh!
February 24th, 2025 at 00:08@1
I’ve read several places where people are quoting RB for the ‘fact’ that the riff in SOTW apparently should be some crinkled Beethoven’s 5.
But I do remember that RB in some interview stated that it was only for fun he had claimed Ludvig to have been involved in that tune.
But if RB doesn’t find the truth to be a factor for a good story, like Ian G, what are we supposed to know!? ☺️
February 24th, 2025 at 06:28Do you know what’s up and down in this?
Electric or acoustic guitar under his fingers is so addictive…The Best, Sir Ritchie :).
You are doing a good job Candice..keep it up
Once a year..always come back
February 24th, 2025 at 08:14https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egt7mJsIaJQ
Beethoven’s Fifth and SOTW is a Ritchie-generated spoof/myth. The two pieces of music have neither rhythmically nor tonally much in common.
The SOTW riff most likely came from here, Karin:
https://youtu.be/ekGNq4OQD2Y
There was a short-lived craze for this type of – very nice – Brazilian lounge jazz in 60s Swinging London, Ritchie probably heard it there in some night club and it registered subconsciously with him. It is catchy as we all know.
February 24th, 2025 at 09:43I know I’m always light years behind all of you in here, but please listen to this:
https://youtu.be/JiFOlv-YAb8?si=OTL8B0l2jHaUU6V4
Doesn’t it sound exactly like Purple and ZZ Top had a musical baby and Ian is singing it’s praise 😃
Thanks to one of you in here I heard it for the first time the other day. And it hasn’t left since ☺️
This made me wonder if there are other gems out there!
February 24th, 2025 at 11:30A gem, Karin, yes! Always liked it very much. Shame it never was released properly to my knowledge. There are not too many unreleased new songs by DP apart from this. Do you know about the Dick Pimple track, released for DPAS fans only during Purpendicular times?
February 24th, 2025 at 11:55These are great !
February 24th, 2025 at 12:40Absolutely fantastic to see Ritchie enjoying himself and it does appear as if he’s not wearing any trousers in the videos !?
Has Candy promised him something…if he does the video !?
@4
Thank you Uwe, but then I guess I prefer the Beethoven-version 😉☺️
You find it very nice???..?
Ok, for a man who likes Purple, JP amongst other more hard-rocking bands, you have a very broad taste 🤗 (that’s not bad at all!)
February 24th, 2025 at 12:53No, this is the relatively rare case of DP playing a finished or nearly finished song live in the Morse era and then not recording it in the studio in the aftermath, at least not that I know of.
It’s a nice enough DP stomper.
February 24th, 2025 at 14:53#5 Karin
yes, the style is that of ZZ top.
It must be said that for Purple this would have been a song written in 5 minutes and a waste, for ZZ Top it would be a great song.
the chorus is nothing special though, and that’s probably why it fell into memory
February 24th, 2025 at 15:20@6
No Max, have never heard of that, Dick Pimple (sounds like some kind of a joke?)
Ok, when I search for that in YT, I see all kind of quite interesting videos 🫣
February 24th, 2025 at 20:05So please , tell me where I can find that song, because I have seen enough of the other videos (if you search on YT you know what I mean 😂)
@9
February 24th, 2025 at 20:12I love that song 🤩
It’s good old rock’n’roll without too many frills and lah-di-dah 😃
I love the lyrics, ex: “this sky is grey, but the sun is shining somewhere every day” – positivity right up my alley 🥰
And I love Ian’s falsetto! Perfect, not too much, just perfect 😃
@10
Funny how you put that, ‘for ZZ Top it would be a great song’,
I know what you mean, Purple are more intriguing to be honest, (I’m not disgrading ZZ Top) but once in a while, it’s refreshing with a more ordinary tune 😃
Sometimes a song is just a song, and this one is lovely 🥰
February 24th, 2025 at 20:16@11: https://youtu.be/wlEuUOYmX3g
February 25th, 2025 at 07:13@14
February 25th, 2025 at 07:43Thank you Svante 🤗
greensleeves seems to be the only full acoustic tune ritchie seems to know these days..he will be playing nursery rhymes next…
February 25th, 2025 at 08:44Is that RB or the great lefty ? 😉
February 25th, 2025 at 10:53@14;I thank you too, Svante…for stepping in. Couldn’t find it myself that moment. I got a copy of the cd but wasn’t home while writing… the Turtle Island Shuffle…by Dick Pimple …of course.
February 25th, 2025 at 13:23Dick Pimple? Let me have a word with René, he shouldn’t allow you to search stuff like that. 😑
Your screen time needs to be supervised more closely, Karin.
February 25th, 2025 at 15:12@19
February 25th, 2025 at 17:19😁😁
I was led astray Uwe, I’m completely innocent!
I can give you René’s phone number ☺️
“You find it very nice???..?” (incredulous Viking maiden @8)
Jawohl, I find shaking my butt and swinging my hips to Beethoven’s Fifth kind of hard to do, don’t you? All that stern and rigid German drama … 🙄
South American rhythms have always had an appeal for me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54ItEmCnP80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8F55puGHIs
See your doctor quick if this music doesn’t make you twitch, you’re probably dead already. 😂
It’s one aspect that I always dug about IGB too, their penchant for South American rhythms (no doubt courtesy of Mark Nauseef’s love of percussive world music):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJZtbwgGXPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LlClLhLKvc
BTW, I’m not alone, Herr Gibbons of ZZ Top shares my weakness and you can even hear a bit of a SOTW inspirational vibe here too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_i3qMOOgfk
Finally, bringing SOTW back to where it came from:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlpxQCzJOfs
February 25th, 2025 at 19:45@21
I am here to learn!
Never have I suggested otherwise….
I was asking a question, whether you found it nice 🥰
But you don’t appreciate Ludvig v Beethoven? I am sad! Truly and deeply. (And I don’t think of this wonderful composer’s ability to get me onto the dance floor☺️) but he was GRAND in his way of making the world listen.
Tchaikovsky did the same, in another place, and he had the same attention-seeking composer’s ability. Well, back to the vocalist from Miami Sound Machine, (and doesn’t she have a cute nose!?☺️) ohh yes, she is great, they were great. First time I really listened to her voice was in the film Stakeout. But not the last time.
And yes mr Martin had a certain je-ne-sais-quoi! So I guess I can conclude: I am not dead 🙌🏼
Regarding the rest of your links, I’m going to sleep, so I will wait until tomorrow (can’t hardly wait 😃) to dive into those!
February 25th, 2025 at 21:07@21
Re ‘Goodhand Liza’ – aww man I don’t know how to react 😆
I guess everything is wrong here, for me that is, because normally when I hear this magnificent voice, it’s in a completely different style musically and yeah also mood-wise!
This is very strange listening to. It’s like a little bit of Paul Simon’s ‘Rythm of the saints’ (which I actually really like) and a tiny bit of this guy:
https://youtu.be/nd-6eHPyMAI?si=Slkw01iGBYsB1QEK
mixed together in a weird bowl!
Re ‘Angel Manchenio’ – I can see at the comments on YT this is certainly a very popular tune…
And I guess that is the nicest thing I can say about this 😑
(Can one actually be certain this isn’t some misguided AI-thing 😄) (maybe someone had invented AI way before we knew about it! That would actually make sense 😉)
Re Billy G: why do people I really respect and held in high esteem need to make something like this? 😆
It sounds like a tune for ‘Dancing with the stars’ that never made it to be played on TV 😜 but ended “tragically”on the floor (that was obviously a good deed for humanity😚)
And the last one – ohhh no no no no…NO!
And here I really don’t care if the kings and queens from all the royaumes in the world like this, or if a collective of presidents, former and present, prefer this, or if even Ian Gillan himself should have this notion that this is so much better than this:
https://youtu.be/Rfirxs_NUcE?si=wo4pBj1qQkr2FxOF
To me rock, the goooooood kind, needs to be a little dirty, a lot of honest sweat and tears, and not all that upper class snobbery 🤣
Now and then, after I have been MISTREATED and ABUSED listening to the above mentioned tunes, I need to listen to Purple as the was supposed to sound!
Just like if I at fine dining accidentally have eaten some HOT 🌶️ and I need my palate to be calibrated to the sane world again 😉
Btw: this one
https://youtu.be/uIaXva9akfs?si=EBvu1lqW8qJgj6AR
is BEAUTIFUL 🤩 through and through 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
PS:
Listening to IGB, and other similar I feel a lot like Chico here
https://youtu.be/p0Gwe5gKgjo?si=6u8-ECjvyqvYmFqV
February 26th, 2025 at 10:47😁😁😁
I’m not really even remotely an expert on classical music. I don’t even mind it, but I just hardly ever listen to it. I think I prefer the quirki- and playfulness of Mozart to Beethoven and certainly to Wagner.
February 26th, 2025 at 12:00@24
February 26th, 2025 at 14:58Well Wagner had his moments ☺️
Wagner is all too overwhelmingly pretentious to me – with all that Germanic baggage weighing a ton and boring me to tears, he’s as bad as Dio! 🤣 Mozart at least didn’t take himself so fucking serious and always had that playful lightness in his music – stuff like that is really hard to compose without sounding banal.
I prefer more modern classical music like Bernstein or Gershwin (which Wagner surely would disapprove of, raging antisemite he was), give me West Side Story and Porgy & Bess over Götterdämmerung anytime, but as I said: I’m no expert.
I like rhythm with my music, some Western Hemisphere jazzy influence. America’s greatest cultural gifts to the world are gospel, blues, jazz, soul, country & western/bluegrass, rock’n’roll, funk, hip-hop and rap (add reggae and South American music if you think in terms of the Americas). The US has shaped contemporary music like no other.
Ian Hunter said it all:
https://youtu.be/X67Scbwrdn4
February 26th, 2025 at 18:20IGB is sophisticated music, daring for its time and idiosyncratic in its combination of a non-black voice with jazzy and South American rhythms. It’s also very melodic and has good lyrics. It’s musically so intricately detailed and refreshingly well-played and -sung, I never grow tired of it. Also, Ian’s and John Gustafson’s harmony vocals are deluxe and very original (the harmony vocals with GILLAN were nonexistent to unremarkable).
And – dealing with the AI accusation – IGB could actually reproduce their complex music live PLUS add real instrumental fervor and improvisational skill to it.
It is just music that needs a couple of listens to really develop its full impact. What can sound bewildering and confusing at first can be rewarding in the long run. Free your mind, Karin!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7iQbBbMAFE
February 27th, 2025 at 00:57I have to go back to the Toys for a second. It may not be on the Motown label but it definitely has that Motown wall of sound behind it. Not only that but it also has the same beginning as the Supremes “Stop. In the Name Of Love.” Coincedence? Ripoff? Who knows. Two great songs with the exact same beginning.
February 27th, 2025 at 02:46@27
Ok, I’m nothing if not open minded 😄
Tonight when I can’t sleep, I promise I will listen to IGB, but I warn you Uwe, if I get to like it, it’ll be over your sorry head 😆
How come you never comment on Dan Baird? ☺️
February 27th, 2025 at 13:20Politics put aside Uwe is a man of good taste and opinions that be taken on board easyly. The Ian Gillan Band was indeed superb. Clear Air Turbulence and Live at Budokan get played much more often here than say Future Shock. Some of Ian’s albums sound a bit dated now whereas CAT still sounds fresh. It is a timeless classic.
And it’s the wealth of styles that attracts me to all things Purple. Especially when the boys felt free from the chains of the mothership they came up with stunnung music. The IBG jst as well as PAL with Malice in Wonderland, Glenn Hughes with Play Me Out, DC with Northwinds, Roger Glover with Elements, Jon Lord with Sarabande … Just Ritchie stuck to the same old same old until he found a different but even more same old same old …
February 27th, 2025 at 15:10I was at the Deep Purple Appreciation society meeting when Dick Pimple was played for the first time. Those who attended heard Morse era Purple before anyone. I have my original copy. No reasonable offer refused! (it’s also on the Gillan Iommi’s who cares double CD)
February 27th, 2025 at 15:14@30
No doubt about that Max,
I would be proud to name Uwe among my friends, but I’m afraid that ship has sailed!
February 27th, 2025 at 16:12Ich fürchte, der Zug ist dank des Buttertenors abgefahren. 🥺
Under the auspices of a real Motown production, I would have expected the number to be both rhythmically and melodically livelier, The Toys number is terribly lame in comparison (admittedly, I’ve never liked the Petzold original either). Of course it suffers from something that rarely if ever goes right: changing a 3/4 meter song like Petzold’s very courtly minuet tune into a 4/4 number. Ritchie attempted the same thing with Greensleeves in a BN version, the outcome was truly horrible, climbing new heights on the banality-o-meter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lCDhkX7NzY
Forcing a melody written in 3/4 into a 4/4 corset is generally a recipe for disaster, doing it vice versa (here from 4/4 to 6/8) can sometimes yield surprising results …
Original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8mzIyIOdm0
Wait for it … 😁, 6/8 treatment (some people may hear it as 3/4, and that’s ok too):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awgkb6SmfYQ
Brilliant version, KISS thought so themselves and put it on a cover sampler endorsed by them.
PS: Max, you vile bourgeois reactionary thriving on the blood of the subjected masses, thank you for your IGB support! 😘😘😘
February 27th, 2025 at 16:30“And it’s the wealth of styles that attracts me to all things Purple. Especially when the boys felt free from the chains of the mothership they came up with stunning music. The IBG just as well as PAL with Malice in Wonderland, Glenn Hughes with Play Me Out, DC with Northwinds, Roger Glover with Elements, Jon Lord with Sarabande … Just Ritchie stuck to the same old same old until he found a different but even more same old same old …”
My feelings exactly. That time period between roughly
– the release of IGB’s debut, Jon Lord’s Sarabande and Tommy Bolin’s Private Eyes after the DP split in 1976
and
– circa 1982/83 with the Hughes Thrall album and a year later Born Again
stands as the most creative era of the Purple collective. None of it was particularly commercially successful (Rainbow and early WS as the least “daring to be different” being the ones to naturally pick up most business momentum due to being closest to the former DP recipe), but it was a real prolific outburst.
It introduced me to a wealth of music I had never intensively heard before. OF COURSE I was initially utterly aghast when I heard Clear Air Turbulence as a 16-year-old for the first time, thinking “WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?!” (I was a die hard Status Quo fan at the time),
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_mHSGlyRa0
but it being Ian Gillan (and me having now spent my Taschengeld on it 😂), I knuckled down to relistening to it again & again (the Pink Floydish debut by IGB had been much more accessible and given me no issues). And then it became my favorite jazzy/fusion album of all time plus one of Ian’s most remarkable works.
February 27th, 2025 at 17:45“How come you never comment on Dan Baird?”
Since you persist, Prinsesse Karin: Because I worship your – though fully incoherent to the male mind – royally visual feelings about things,
https://media3.giphy.com/media/l0HlI65K15xz2Iizu/200w.gif?cid=6c09b9528ee9a3znsu36dzwex8sli2rxr6jsay73je7ieagv&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g
Karin, that’s why! 😁
I have nothing against Dan Baird or the Georgia Satellites. But I’m not a great fan of that type of rootsy Americana rock in the twilight of John Fogerty, Bruce Springsteen, John Mellencamp and Chris Stapleton. (I guess I like Bob Seger though. And Bob Dylan.) It doesn’t bother me, they often tell good stories, but it’s not something I go back to often. He’s a good singer, no doubt about it, but the music sounds like the backing to what a lot of other artists do as well. I generally prefer music with a more singular sound.
For the same reason, I’m not the greatest Blues fanatic either though I don’t deny its lasting influence on rock. But I’m more attracted to, say, mature Beatles compositional art.
February 27th, 2025 at 18:36Speaking of Dan Baird, shouldn’t you love these guys then as well too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAjXJDFqsoU
I can understand the appeal of that kind of music, it’s organic and warm, carries a tune and generally makes you feel good. I’m not knocking it, it has its rightful place.
February 27th, 2025 at 18:45The vocal is a misfit of sorts for the IGB. It was a good idea & the musicians are all excellent indeed. Good music, some good vocal at times, but something wasn’t quite right was it? It also served a purpose in getting Gillan himself back into rock music, so it was a win win for many. Cheers.
February 27th, 2025 at 20:51@28 Dave, The Supremes covered “A Lover’s Concerto”, along with just about everyone else at that time, & beyond. Here’s a few versions that I found on youtube.
The Toys 2025 Remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdkoOKmC3bw
The Supremes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU8MuWJm_cY
Nancy Boyd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scl9uIJbNsI
Scott Willis Guitar Cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=werp2B-vLAM
Neil Sedaka… sung in Italian!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWN9o8S7aIM
The Delfonics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km-FojSh0kE
Sarah Vaughn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi5mU7UAx7I
Quincy Jones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhbrCjt7ji8
The Vogues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh7h6AlZWjI
Cilla Black
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpVT8trCRDI
Leslie Uggams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LExtUzhFxLI
Bluegrass version by Doyle Lawson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biSTxTGSIQw
February 28th, 2025 at 00:33@35
“Since you persist, Prinsesse Karin: Because I worship your – though fully incoherent to the male mind – royally visual feelings about things,“
🤔(men have this peculiar phenomenon too!)(there are not many of us, 2-4% – and I’ll let you do the maths on how many we are out of the world’s population)
🧐
Well, thank you, I guess (maybe you can sense I’m suspecting some burn here 😁) (that’s your own fault because you so often has been taunting and ridiculing me!)
Ok, let me tell you why I love Dan Baird and Georgia Satellites (and thank you for the link to Blackberry Smoke, really REALLY nice too!)
I often picture myself living in the country (which I do) and after a long and hot summer, where we finally have brought the crops in the barn, (which is a wild stretch of anyone’s imagination because the only produce we have are apples and plums 😄 but please pretend) and then we need a nice dance and then Dan Baird and co is just the right music for such a gardenparty 😃
I’m not saying Purple isn’t the right music always, but well, Purple is more an experience to be savoured in private, not shared with a lot of people (unless it’s at a concert where those among you actually love Purple) because even though I know it sounds CRAZY, not all in my circle of friends like Purple 😱🤧 (I’m working on their attitude and their minds ☺️)
@36
February 28th, 2025 at 15:50“it’s organic and warm, carries a tune and generally makes you feel good. I’m not knocking it, it has its rightful place.“
Yes it has! 😍
And Uwe isn’t music almost always meant to make you feel good?
(Except grunge! What do you think of grunge btw?)
The arrangement employed for The Supremes is a whole lot Motownish groovier than the original one by The Toys. Very interesting, John, danke. The Toys were no doubt trying to emulate a Detroit sound, but the original Motown handwriting has a lightness of touch to it the East Coast couldn’t replicate. Backing vox and strings are more refined on The Supremes’ version too. Diana Ross is also more note-perfect than Barbara Harris – you can hear the Motown hit factory at work.
February 28th, 2025 at 19:50@37: The shadow of DP loomed large, Herr MacGregor, that and the fact that the IGB was caught up in the Punk craze made it difficult for them. Island Records also didn’t really know what to do with the band nor were they paired with the right acts on their tours. Sending them on tours with Nazareth, Thin Lizzy and Ted Nugent … 🙄
But while Big Ian is not a jazzer by any means, he is on record for “not wanting to say anything bad about the Ian Gillan Band, I learnt more in that group than I can ever use”. That makes his tenure with them so attractive to me: You could say that he was out of his depth singing to music like that, but he threw the rule book away and created something beautifully new and different outside of his usual comfort zone. Had IGB been successful, I’m pretty sure Ian would have continued with them for a while longer though with complex music like that a commercial clout like DP had was of course never in the cards. Yet there was a finesse in the way the IGB musicians played that you generally only find in acts like, say, Gentle Giant, UK or Toto. Perhaps they should have pushed the PROG image more (CIT and CAT certainly had PROG covers), some people thought their music not that different to UK (which at the time failed to be commercially successful as well).
In any case, Scarabus (the album) was already a lot more concise and harder-rocking than CAT, but by that time Ian and Island Records had lost faith. But in Japan at least, the IGB seems to have eclipsed anything GILLAN ever did there. I’m not aware that the latter ever could play much less sell out Budokan Hall.
February 28th, 2025 at 20:31@ 41- yes indeed Uwe, the timing of the IGB probably affected their possible access into a more ‘progressive’ market. Things were moving fast indeed at that time and many of the British progressive bands had stalled (taken a break) or were not existing at all. The Japanese have always appreciated progressive rock music, so no surprises there at the IGB being a more successful act there. They are also much more patient and understanding of things, unlike some other countries. Very polite in their audience behaviour too I have noticed with concerts being filmed there. No shouting etc in the quiet moments of music & being rude and arrogant like a few countries which I despise for their attitude. It isn’t all of the audience though of course in those ‘other’ countries, so the old saying ‘there is one in every crowd’ springs to mind. Stellar musicians in the IGB, very very good indeed. Cheers.
March 1st, 2025 at 00:55“I would be proud to name Uwe among my friends, but I’m afraid that ship has sailed!
Ich fürchte, der Zug ist dank des Buttertenors abgefahren. 🥺”
Such incredible nonsense, woman! I’m Catholic and believe in redemption for even Viking pagans (after suitable penance that is!), your soul can still be saved! Get on the love train!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqFFcNXKc9E
And mange tak for putting up with all my sarcasm, I appreciate it!
PS: I’m not the greatest Grunge fan, Nirvana did nothing for me (but they were nevertheless hugely influential), Alice in Chains is probably my favorite Seattle band, Stone Temple Pilots I like too. I don’t mind very dark music though, I do like Marilyn Manson (who has lots of Grunge influences) and his disturbing visuals for instance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnsGa7wQgTg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q_pSTNX5ro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdV1Zc_PFdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R682M3ZEyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7cPgonpbwo
March 1st, 2025 at 00:59“I often picture myself living in the country (which I do) and after a long and hot summer, where we finally have brought the crops in the barn, (which is a wild stretch of anyone’s imagination because the only produce we have are apples and plums 😄 but please pretend) and then we need a nice dance and then Dan Baird and co is just the right music for such a gardenparty 😃”
You should apply as an extra in one of The Castellows’ videos then!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TObOS_g8IXY&t=1s
Or maybe with Neil Young?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2MtEsrcTTs
March 1st, 2025 at 02:07#31 David
wow, you are a privileged person!!
March 1st, 2025 at 10:57I don’t envy money, but I envy people who can say “I did this”, “I was there that time”, “I saw it with my own eyes…”
well, you understand, here it is
@44
Ohh Uwe I love Neil Young and ‘Harvest Moon’ 😍
March 1st, 2025 at 11:48@43
“I do like Marilyn Manson” – you do? Really??
He is one of few that makes my skin crawl 😝
And here I can’t even force myself to listen to him… (have tried before, years ago, but no no 😞
I read, somewhere, he is accused of being extremely violent towards girlfriends 🥺
Btw I’m well again! Once again homeopathy came to the rescue 😍
March 2nd, 2025 at 17:36Manson can be a perceptive interview partner and observer. That he has his demons and that his stage show is not all an act is perhaps something that should occur to you before you decide to move in with him for a couple of years. I wouldn’t be surprised about oppressive mind games of his if you are his significant other, assertions of physical violence outside of what people consent to for a kick have however never been validated to my knowledge. Which doesn’t mean that you cannot be cruel without hitting.
My son has met him a few times (outside of gigs) in LA, Manson is fashion conscious. He says he’s a nice enough man, but very much into the psycho-babble popular with many of the more sophisticated Californian celebrities.
His popular image is of course scripted to disturb, but I find it so carefully calibrated it is an esthetic all of its own. Artful in a sense GWAR or Slipknot were not.
March 4th, 2025 at 15:46@48
….and I dislike his voice too!
Ok, I don’t know him at all! Not musically, not his personality either!
It’s hard to learn anything about a musician/singer when you’re fighting a real battle to keep your lunch down and make sure your skin stays where it’s supposed to be! ☺️
March 5th, 2025 at 07:27