Tonight on the telly
Hot off the press, and slightly unverified. Tonight, November 12, at 11pm local time, Ian Gillan will be hosting a show on channel 358 (NOW Rock) of Sky TV.
That’s all we know.
Thanks to Steve for the heads-up.
Hot off the press, and slightly unverified. Tonight, November 12, at 11pm local time, Ian Gillan will be hosting a show on channel 358 (NOW Rock) of Sky TV.
That’s all we know.
Thanks to Steve for the heads-up.
25 Greatest Bands with Ian Gillan
The legendary frontman of rock icons Deep Purple has handpicked 25 of the finest bands from the past six decades. It’s classics all the way, so crank it up!
(Says Sky TV guide…)
November 12th, 2024 at 19:07I‘ve heard that Ian – as a special treat to all his Danish fans – will tonight be playing his favorite Elvis songs mostly. The man is after all selflessly committed to that most commendable and noble concept of adult education. Vi er meget glade!
November 12th, 2024 at 20:00The info says “The legendary frontman of rock icons Deep Purple has handpicked 25 of the finest bands from the past six decades. It’s classics all the way, so cranks it up.”
November 12th, 2024 at 20:23Finally something interesting on the tv 😉
November 12th, 2024 at 21:12@2
November 13th, 2024 at 00:11😆😆
Then I’m really sad I can’t pick up that one Sky tv!
Would have loved to see that…(not 😄)
I’m glad you got the heads up
It’s actually really good, great choice of bands …we are so lucky to be surrounded by such brilliant music !
And Who knew that IG was invited to join Mike and the Mechanics ?
November 13th, 2024 at 00:36TV?…. Oh yeah, I remember that old thing. It’s what people used to spend their spare time staring at, before the internet arrived. Actually, I still watch it, but mainly for the nightly news & such.
November 13th, 2024 at 02:20I suppose hosting this show is another way for Mr Gillan to fill in the hours & amuse himself, & perhaps some others as well. Good luck to him!.
In the past week or so, I’ve spoken to some young women in their early 30’s, who have never heard of songs like Black Magic Woman (Santana), True Colours (Cyndi Lauper), or many other pre year 2000 classics. But they all know Tay Tay & Bieber.
Deep Purple? What’s that? she asks. HaHaHaHaHa!.
Eternity, I’m almost there. (Loud sobbing noises ensue…)
Looks like Ian Gillan’s perfect opportunity for a post DP career of sorts. Maybe he could get Grumpy Rick on there for a few hints & tips & to also have a good laugh to get the ball rolling. What about a few ‘celebrities’ eh, have to love that. Even more mega star guests, what about past DP members with sensational interviews & even rare ‘live’ performances, shazammm! Blackmore & his missus performing ‘Those Times Sure Did Change”, Glenn Hughes singing ‘Hold On I Know I’m Rocking Steady’ & even poor ole Cov’s performing the proverbial lament with Ritchie along side, ‘I Have Beeeeen Mistreated’. This is a stellar cast indeed. Oh don’t forget Joelene singing a acoustic slowed down version of ‘The Audience Died & Faded Away”. Stay tuned folks, same BAT time, same BAT channel.
November 13th, 2024 at 02:44Living in Denmark it’s not possible for me to see that exquisite program with the lead singer of Deep Purple!
It’s really sad actually, do any of you know what to do? (Besides moving to another country…)
November 13th, 2024 at 10:07Talking of Rick Wakeman & Rick Beato has just done a glorious 90 minute interview with Rick. He gets to ask a few questions here & there & Rick W is in fine form & sitting at the piano playing bits & pieces from David Bowie, Cat Stevens etc & also hitting the Hammond for a sample or two. What an orator Wakeman is & what a career. The session stories from his early days are worth it alone. Is there anything Wakeman hasn’t performed on? And there are plenty of Yes musical demonstrations & tales too, hooray. A must watch for any Rick Wakeman aficionados out there or even in here at THS. Bless him. Cheers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zppfjeculUs
November 13th, 2024 at 10:31So, how was it? Anyone recorded?
November 13th, 2024 at 12:28John, (i) first things first: congrats for successfully mingling repeatedly with „young women in their early 30s“ (do you offer online classes by any chance?), (ii) don‘t blame them, blame their fathers for not instilling the right musical values in them! My two kids, born 91 and 94, are well-versed in 70s rock, their Spotify lists look like Classic Rock radio programs. Teresa says „my dad likes Deep Purple, Judas Priest & Status Quo“ with a heavy sigh like other people mention their parental background as ridden with alcoholism. 😂 Another favorite of hers is “I was only six when he had me watch a full Deep Purple and ELP open air concert on his shoulders without any earplugs!” (Dad’s edit: A somewhat dramatic depiction, I must say, she partially fell asleep during the gig, so it can’t have been that loud.) Leon has gone even farther back in Blues and Country and listens to people like Son House and Hank Williams. And, alas!, Led Zeppelin, yes.
Old Asian proverb: There are no bad pupils, only bad teachers.
Big Ian was offered to join Mike & The Mechanics? Why the hell didn’t he go, that would have been interesting! I do remember that in a blind test of new releases in German Musik Express during his Sabbath stint he was full of praise for Genesis’ then new song Mama: “Is that Genesis? It’s brilliant. It’s music I feel automatically drawn to.”
November 13th, 2024 at 13:16It was absolutely fantastic . Loved it . I feel like I’ve been to one of his parties .
November 13th, 2024 at 18:59Great choice of bands ( led Zep and Jimi Hendrix were his top 2 ) ..some surprises ( but what do you expect)
He also told some great anecdotes…lemme, Eddie Van Halen …plus Mike and the Mechanics …really interesting.
He also spoke of how much he was enjoying Purples ‘ Cabaret ‘ period and how they were considering doing matinées with Tom Jones in Vegas !
I found the Jon Lord ‘Face to Face’ interview with Rick Wakeman 2008/9 era, it has been too long since I have watched that one. One of the best interviews I have ever seen & Lord gets to do all the talking & he is wonderful. I had forgotten many of the stories he talks about, bless him. Cheers.
https://vimeo.com/901658437
November 13th, 2024 at 22:53Be merciful, for those who didn’t have the opportunity to watch, at least retell the gist.
November 14th, 2024 at 16:36Yes. And what was DP’s “Cabaret”-period again?
November 14th, 2024 at 18:38@15
November 14th, 2024 at 19:51I support Nino – as in completely 😊
@17: Darn suffragettes! 😂
November 15th, 2024 at 01:41@12 Uwe, it’s not quite what you think….
Being referred to as “Daddy John” by the younger women that you meet, well, it’s not quite the same thing as having some fun with one of them, while you proclaim “Who’s your Daddy? to her!. Hahaha!
Uwe, women tend to choose the guys they want, rather than any other idea that us men may conned ourselves into believing. Of course being rich (& maybe handsome), also goes a long way too! All you can do is throw your hat in ring, then be alert for any interest, attachments & consequences.
Grumble, grumble, grumble….
Being a Deutschlander with a nose for intrigue, I wondered if you’d ever heard about the most mysterious song on the internet? Possibly the internet’s greatest musical mystery? Well, it’s finally been solved, for fex sake!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWpcvqTCA8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_c5Rau2tVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrWu6QVQtXU
Now, just for some relevancy to this Deep Purple site, here’s a cover of SKOW that also happened to be made in Japan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-bpokUl15Y
& finally, here’s some lovely wooden music by Steve Morse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzksfk9chP4
November 15th, 2024 at 03:26@19
November 15th, 2024 at 07:37Dear John….
Not to interfere, but a good, decent and trustworthy heart is more important than money and good looks ☺️
Bruder John: Your advice on wimmin an’ such is somewhat sobering. And I thought they were attracted to a good character and liking animals, darn.
I wasn’t aware of the quest for the origins of the FEX song, but I remember hearing it once or twice. I could have immediately told you it was Krauts trying to sound like Joy Division, New Order or The Cure, that kind of somber-solemn introvert melancholic indie new wave was very popular in Germany, corresponds with our national psyche.
That Jap tribute is well-done if faithful replication is your thing (it isn’t really mine).
The SM tune is nice, kinda the product of a one-night-stand between The Doobie Brothers and Boston. Trés américain.
November 15th, 2024 at 16:47Since =1 came out I’ve been thinking about proposing two monographic episodes on the life, anecdotes and music of Mr. Ian Gillan to a radio station in Milan, which does a 2-hour program on rock every evening with an italian rock famous DJ…..sooner or later I’ll start writing a draft, but it won’t be easy to get out “only” the most representative songs of his voice and his multifaceted career
November 15th, 2024 at 23:45@20 Dearest Karin, & @21 the redoubtable Uwe,
I’ve seen ’em come, & I’ve seen ’em go… I’ve heard every imaginable story… I’ve had my experiences, & also witnessed others…
They say they want the good boy, but they often go with the bad boy!. Is there a sucker born every minute? Well, the insightful Cyndi Lauper sang Money Changes Everything. Hmmmmm…
However, I tender the following as conclusive evidence, to wit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H69qXOHVS04
I’d say that’s game, set, & match!
Yep, that’s why I keep what little I have in a bank, where it’s slightly safer.
Now to soothe your feelings, here’s ai Ronnie James (Brown) Dio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCvICZFSJtg
& here’s the late Mr Torme showing how…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qE1-w64-gI
I always thought that Ritchie must have had that guitar riff in mind when he wrote the Fire In The Basement riff. Others say it was Lazy.
November 16th, 2024 at 03:29@23
Ok then, I really don’t know how to respond so instead I give you a hug 🤗, and really hope the cynic tone is wildly exaggerated ☺️
And for ms Monroe, I think you’ll find it was a character she played, in real life she was a kind, thoughtful lady with great compassion for other people. Her poor life choices was maybe in reality more dictated by other cold hearted people who didn’t care for her at all.
Then again, what do I know? I’m just a woman living in Denmark without a very great knowledge of anything. But I do know one thing: it’s never a waste to treat other people kindly and with compassion 😊
November 16th, 2024 at 09:25The full list in order. Not sure that this is actually IG’s favourite 25 bands.
AC/DC
November 16th, 2024 at 18:18ZZ Top
Lynard Skynard
Pink Floyd
Van Halen (he was asked to join Mike and the Mecanics)
The WHO
Fleetwood Mac
Steely Dan
Metallica
Motörhead
The Kinks
Credence Clearwater Revival
Muse
Rolling Stones
Eagles
Nirvana
Status Quo
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Foo Fighters
Deep Purple
Iron Maiden
Black sabbath
Cream
Led Zeppelin
Hendrix
Naw, I disagree John. I don‘t think that there are more women seeking wealth than there are men, there are probably less. What women want is ABSENCE OF ECONOMIC WORRIES and that is basically the same thing what they have wanted since the dawn of man long before the invention of money. The absence of sabertooth tigers in the cave and enough berries and roots around it to pick (plus the occasional mammoth steak). A life without (or as little as possible) threats for them and their young, which makes perfect evolutionary sense. Sufficient money doesn’t buy happiness, but it is life-, health- and safety-preserving. Any comparison of mortality rates between rich and poor confirms that.
We‘re all apes. And I have an biologistic outlook on life. What drives us, evolution has chosen, matched and aligned well – that is why we are such a darn successful species.
PS: Best Holy Diver version I‘ve so far heard!
November 16th, 2024 at 19:28Pretty much a who’s who in rock of the last 60 years, inoffensive and not a single cult act among them. Not a single female voice either.
“Van Halen (he was asked to join Mike + the Mechanics)” – that’s an inside joke, right David? The Mike heading the Mechanics’ garage wasn’t Michael Anthony last I heard! 🤣
Bands so similar you can hardly tell them apart:
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/58e8ccfff5e231a18a2fd4b6/1508241236696-R1J7WEGP8YE4PQEZRENV/VAN-000000-0032e.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2e/f1/b1/2ef1b18984f8df75d934d3f5051b79d7.jpg
November 16th, 2024 at 21:38@25
This one:
https://youtu.be/XoFJbeBXuCc?si=-xLgShRFXoX1bHkJ
is missing 😉
November 17th, 2024 at 07:39@26
Well Uwe I just have to say this: 🤦🏼♀️
Do I really have to pull up my sleeves and explain a woman for you??
Ok then ( I can hear you’re nodding):
A woman couldn’t care less about financial security!
One man once said: it’s nicer to be crying in a Jaguar than in a bus 😄 and I just have to say that I don’t know which bull dropped that!
A real woman in love wants a man who can make her laugh! Who has time for her, who appreciates her opinion, who values her and never ever belittles her!
A man who is secure enough to let her be her, but also secure enough to demands her loyalty, respect and of course love!
It doesn’t hurt if he is attractive and has a bit of money hidden for hard times, but it is CERTAINLY not the main reason for a woman to chose him!
And I will tell you why this is:
To be a united front against the problems in the life as general is so – SOOOOOO – much powerful than to have the latest, newest, biggest whatever!
And to know that if death one day robs you of your love, you can go on because once in your life you was loved 🥰
Ok? Ok!
November 17th, 2024 at 12:28@27. Uwe, misleading on my part. As part of IG’s intro to Van Halen he was talking about meeting Eddie when he was in the USA being pitched to my Richard Branson and Mike Rutherford about being the singer in Mike & The Mechanics. I just forgot to caveat that when I cut and pasted the list.
November 17th, 2024 at 12:39@26
– always forget something!
Think about it! Does anyone really wanna be with someone who disappears the same second the money is gone?
Laughter, sharing beautiful sunsets, walking hand in hand, drinking yummy coffee, share interests and develop each others minds, and share memories etc – those are the essential qualities in a happy life!
And now I’m done ☺️
November 17th, 2024 at 12:40Did Ian really play Shania Twain? Not exactly the rootsiest type of music whereas everything else presented pretty much is. Whether Mutt Lange did Def Leopard or his former wife, the results always sound a bit plastic to me.
More seriously, Karin, did you run this vid past Herr MacGregor and did he sign off on it? Crop tops – that sinful abyss of fashionable female attire – are generally verboten with him, we‘re a bit of a monastery here.
November 17th, 2024 at 14:38@32
I’m pretty sure Ian G and all other men alive with red blood in their veins will find her somewhat cute!
I’m sure MacGregor sees her qualities as a performer!
November 17th, 2024 at 17:11@25 Wot, no Elvis or Beatles? Strange…
November 17th, 2024 at 18:38@25
Thanks
@34
I wanted to ask the same thing
@27
November 18th, 2024 at 01:19How can someone confuse Van Halen and Genesis with someone else?
“I’m sure MacGregor sees her qualities as a performer!“
Have her put something on first.
November 18th, 2024 at 02:20@34
November 18th, 2024 at 04:43Well I have an idea……😉
@33.
I have red blood in my veins. ST I would not describe as “cute” there is a plethora of more appropriate English epithets which more accurately define her appeal (IMO I should add). Personally ok with the crop top!
November 18th, 2024 at 12:18My gosh, I see it before me now, David Black, a man ravaged by gargantuan lust and cascades of testosterone … MAKE WAY FOR THE ALPHA MALE !!! 🤣
Shania was a commoditized product and creation of her hubbie, Mutt Lange. She is to new country/country-tinged pop what Helene Fischer is to Schlager, our German readers will know what I mean. Her music is banal and inauthentic. She works hard at it though, high work ethic, I’ll grant her that.
But gimme Alison Krauss any day instead: voice, artistic integrity and, yes, even “red blood steam factor” (at least for a beta male like me, we like to be triggered more subtly).
https://youtu.be/Mu04Cbfp6G4
https://youtu.be/S-yN8XeOA9Q
https://youtu.be/5an0xJda-uc
November 18th, 2024 at 16:00@14 Thanks for the Jon Lord / Rick Wakeman interview! Don’t remember seeing it before.
Really interesting to hear Lord’s account of the December 1968 “Glory Road” / “Lay Lady Lay” session in New York. Particularly, how the band spent an entire day in the studio trying to tackle those songs. Had previously read somewhere that the session was brief, as Ritchie was too drunk to record, and went out to ride a bicycle around Washington Square instead.
If the band did in fact spend a whole day on the session, it beggars belief that they didn’t put anything to tape. Makes one hopeful that, even if they couldn’t agree on an arrangement of “Glory Road”, as Lord says… Maybe a Purple version of “Lay Lady Lay” might still turn up one day.
Some sources including the Thompson book would have it that “Oh No” aka “Oh No No No” survives from this session. But from the photo of the acetate on the Discogs website, it’s pretty clear that song was recorded in Los Angeles the previous month.
Another curious thing in the interview is Lord taking credit for the slowed-down arrangement of “Help”. Seem to recall both Ritchie and Nick attributing that idea to Rod, one or the other of them even saying that was what landed him the DP gig.
November 18th, 2024 at 22:07“A real woman in love wants a man who can make her laugh! Who has time for her, who appreciates her opinion, who values her and never ever belittles her!
A man who is secure enough to let her be her, but also secure enough to demands her loyalty, respect and of course love!”
No argument from me Karin, those are relevant factors, no doubt. But they are all culturally acquired while the provider thing (“Will he be able to care for me and my young and protect us from harm?”) is archaic, it’s biologically ingrained. If he’s nice guy on top of that then that is of course an attractive plus. It adds to the security and potential longevity.
Last I heard, Neanderthal men were really crap at telling jokes and making women laugh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e0qYP_PTlY
When men (and often enough also women) deride a(nother) woman as a “social climber” I always intervene and say: “Bullshit, she is just following what she is genetically engineered to do, no character judgement should be attached to it.”
November 18th, 2024 at 22:51@41
“Last I heard, Neanderthal men were really crap at telling jokes and making women laugh.” <- 🤣🤣🤣
Well this is a discussion I’m pretty sure admin will frown upon, so I end it here with this statement:
It was a personal view, I have been married in almost 30 years, and believe I do have some experience in the matter. And my sweetheart isn’t complaining (that much ☺️)
The high rate of divorces are speaking volume of the difficulties but I stop here!
Thanks so much for the link, I had forgotten all about 10CC!
November 19th, 2024 at 07:32They were not half-bad actually!
@41
As usually I forgot something 🙄
Tell me which normal, living, soulful, healthy woman could say ‘no thanks unless you have the money to go with it’ to this:
https://youtu.be/SFpsDAL4oKE?si=mkkFvMBE_q-uriUJ
Money comes and goes Uwe, true love and a meaningful relationship stays forever!
Personally I will at any time prefer living in a cave with my man than in a castle with a ‘nobody’!
And now I’m done 😄
November 19th, 2024 at 09:04I’m married for the second time so I have more empirical experience than you and am a repeat offender to boot! 🤣 Besides, there is this old saying: “How good a marriage actually was only shows upon divorce.”
10cc “not half-bad”?!!!!! 🤯 That’s like saying The Beatles had “some significance”. 😀
November 19th, 2024 at 15:50Skippy, I’ve only recently read on his site that Nick Simper himself claims to have come up with the idea of the offbeat arrangement for Help (which John Lennon indeed liked)! I guess success has many fathers, failure is an orphan. 😃
Nick also says that Hush was his “Samba” arrangement.
That doesn’t mean that the sound of The Maze, where Rod and Little Ian came from, had no influence on early DP. MK I‘s version of “I’m So Glad” was a cut & paste job from The Maze’s earlier version:
https://youtu.be/0mpet37WYtI
November 19th, 2024 at 16:05@39.
Alpha? I think not. Irrespective of whether or not her talent was commoditized she’s a good looking women. These cameras never lie! I could no more ignore a good looking women as I could ignore a sunset or a glorious mountain view.
November 19th, 2024 at 16:15Let’s hope in the future there will be a free link to watch Big Ian’s episode!
November 19th, 2024 at 20:31Herr MacGregor @14, darn, I can’t see the Face To Face interview with Jon in my neck of the woods, it’s not available in the more civilized regions of this world. 😁
All I found was this here from around the same time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHHW2504-SM
Skippy, I was unaware of that aborted “Glory Road” session in NYC in late 1968, I assume it was a cover, who wrote it? Was it this (beautiful) Neil Diamond number?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiabLkIPWEs
Nick Simper, who generally give very detailed accounts of Purple’s early days, doesn’t mention that session at all on his home page:
https://www.nicksimper.net/nicks-story/chapters-18-25/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood/
“Flying back to New York the next day we spent some time shopping, visiting the legendary stores such as Macy’s. On Christmas Day our whole entourage enjoyed a massive turkey dinner at Number One’s restaurant.
With just a few gigs remaining at New York’s Electric Circus, the tour was almost at an end. On December 28th we were surprised to find that Cashbox, one of the most important music business papers had listed us as number 4 in their top 5 most promising male vocal groups, the other contenders being the Chambers Brothers, Canned Heat, the Jeff Beck Group and the Crazy World of Arthur Brown. A nice accolade to end our first U.S. tour with.
On January 3rd a tired but happy Deep Purple arrived back in England to a press reception at London’s Dorchester Hotel. Pictures appeared in the evening papers, including Jon, Judith, Ritchie and Babs who announced their forthcoming marriages. For the first time in three months the group went their separate ways, Ian Paice and myself sharing a limousine to our respective homes. On January 25, 1969 Cashbox gave us another accolade by featuring a full-page photo of the group on their international page, listing the many countries in which we had charted. A rare honour indeed, showing how far we had come in less than one year……”
November 19th, 2024 at 22:35@44
I am from Denmark, a country driven by sarcasm and understatement, so it’s in my DNA not to praise loudly, unless it’s something I really appreciate!
So ‘half-bad’ means ‘really really good’.
Beatles did have some significance!
Especially this one is ok nice (😉 which means it’s FANTASTIC)
https://youtu.be/jenWdylTtzs?si=cv9J4pglbOCeR755
Btw: I finally find a way EP had some importance, I guess EP was somehow, partly, responsible for this fine fella:
https://youtu.be/OFZH1ZqrRS0?si=J-7DBFXDKVJzpQE8
Of course I think Shakin’ S is way way WAY more interesting than the other American guy…
November 20th, 2024 at 08:35@ 48 – that is no good Uwe. It has been rare online I will say, I watched it the first time about 10 years ago & then it wasn’t available for many years, until this vimeo one turned up recently by the look of it. Thanks for that short Jon Lord interview, I haven’t ever seen that one. I could listen to Jon Lord talk all day, he is such an eloquent, thoughtful & pleasant personality. He is very much missed by so many of us. Cheers.
November 20th, 2024 at 09:07When did Jon actually pick up his charming stammer? He never had it as a young man, but in his later years it was all over in his interviews.
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Frau Verndal, you and your scattershot geography assumptions: Shakin’ Steven’s is not “another American”, but stems from Cardiff, Wales, some way off Memphis, Tennessee! You’re not from Iceland either! 😂
And to declare Elvis “somehow, partly responsible” for the Welshman’s career is a bit like saying that Ritchie Blackmore was “somehow, partly responsible” for Yngwie J Malmsteen’s professional life. 🤐
Shakin’ Stevens aka Michael Barratt actually PLAYED Elvis in a London West End musical in the late 70s (before his solo career took off)
https://youtu.be/yDt8QPx675o
and had prior to that his own Elvis-type Rockabilly nostalgia band “Shakin’ Stevens & The Sunsets” (a direct allusion to Elvis’ Sun Records formative days):
https://youtu.be/CWG6cB33K0o
I think Michael’s music was watered down and cheesed up over the course of his career, but I really dug ‘Green Door’:
https://youtu.be/8BnPV9f_Ue4
Back then he still sounded fresh and his (sincere) love for Rockabilly (not my favorite genre) was undiluted.
https://youtu.be/yDt8QPx675o
November 20th, 2024 at 15:12@51
Ohh I’m so happy 😃 (humming a happy tune 🎵 🎵)
I’ve found the right buttons to make you go 🍌, at least a little bit 😉
Sweetie I do know where the excellent EP copyist comes from ☺️
“ I think Michael’s music was watered down and cheesed up over the course of his career” – well I think EP’s music was blah! 🤣
Furthermore MB had charms and charisma, well he still has!
For me it sounded like he was making a spectacle of the American guy’s Butter-tenor tendencies!
Have you listened to Shaky’s newest ‘Re-set’? That’s really not half-bad 😉
He is much more serious, reflecting over life.
I do miss his boyish style from before, but I like his new approach ☺️
Have you ever heard the Danish singer Henning Stærk? He is the former drummer in the Danish band Gnags.
Well he has made the album ‘Mr Boss Man’, but I would love for you to check this out, a much earlier cover song from the good Neil Diamond:
https://youtu.be/ZRY8nPodp5U?si=0Z6zmQJ7W59EAm2F
And the album ‘Mr Boss Man’ is certainly worth a listen to 😊
November 20th, 2024 at 22:12@45 – Uwe, in the interview with Rick Wakeman, which isn’t available in your area, Jon also credits Nick with the “Hush” arrangement idea.
Interesting if Nick said he also thought up the “Help” arrangement. Hadn’t heard that; have heard him credit it to Rod.
@48 – Yes, “Glory Road” was the Neil Diamond number. In the Wakeman interview Jon mentions telling the publisher they were having trouble with the song. They relayed the message to Neil, who then called Jon at the studio, offering suggestions.
The big coup would have been putting out “Lay Lady Lay” before Dylan released his own version. (Thanks to their connections, the publisher had accomplished something similar earlier in 1968 – albeit to little commercial success – with the Boz Burrell single of Dylan tunes, on which members of DP MKI had played.)
The December session was mentioned in the Charlesworth band biography back in the 1980s. Many were hoping the music would turn up on the 2000 MKI remasters, but no such luck.
“Oh No” aka “Oh No No No” was a welcome surprise, though. Originally done by Mike Condello, with Bill “Sputnik” Spooner, later of The Tubes – who would record Condello’s song “Stand Up & Shout” – on guitar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh9BR66snCo
Would be interesting to know how the DP version came about. Perhaps someone pitched the song to them when they were in San Francisco?
Thanks for the link to that other Lord interview! Those “name that tune” quizzes are always fun!
November 20th, 2024 at 23:16Speaking of Shakin’ Stevens, he owed a bit to Alvin too, didn’t he?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0ZqNBd_orI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL0xUq_eBMo
So there that Danish witch queen says uncouth things about our beloved King, only to eventually let slip that she had Shakin’ Stevens posters plastered on her wall!
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ZbsAAOSw2StgY3K2/s-l1600.webp
The chutzpah of it all!! 😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzFLzNL45kA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuBAqCBFNF8
November 20th, 2024 at 23:51@54
This one:
https://youtu.be/oGqCCnFxQLU?si=Pw5jAnQHtAkPb366
It’s AMAZING!
Please help me define the genre? Calypso??
November 21st, 2024 at 08:27@54
“ So there that Danish witch queen says uncouth things about our beloved King, only to eventually let slip that she had Shakin’ Stevens posters plastered on her wall!”
I certainly did not have any Shaky posters, but I would rather have had that than even a postmark anywhere of the mediocre butter-tenor 😂
Regarding the last two links: thanks so much 😊
I enjoyed immensely seeing and listening for myself that anybody can squeal like EAP 😆
Sorry it’s my day-off today so I’m in a mood of joy! But from now on I’ll behave according to the tone in here 😎
November 21st, 2024 at 08:38Thanks Skippy, Neil Diamond calling in to help with the arrangement rings a bell! I’m a big fan of the man.
Henning Stærk’s Diamond cover is nice, lille Danish Shakin’ Stevens fan pige! And Shaky’s Re-Set album (I listened to it just for you) sounds very Celtic, with him dropping most Elvis-mannerisms – that in this day and age he used incredibly cheesy sounding (and not very well done) keyboard horns on Dirty Water is a crime though …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdOuEPi_B74
That song would have been so much better with real horns.
Some of the other material was fine enough to let me order the album out of sheer curiosity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Ffa5oba-E
November 21st, 2024 at 09:40“Please help me define the genre? Calypso?”
Yup, that pretty much nails it. Caribbean something. The album (Accidentally On Purpose) was recorded there too. Together with Sabbath’s Born Again, IGB’s CAT & GILLAN’s Double Trouble studio album, my favorite extracurricular work by Big Ian (actually it was a joint solo album with Roger).
November 21st, 2024 at 16:40@57
I really like his voice, hadn’t I known it is Shakin’ S I wouldn’t have recognised him!
His voice is more fragile, well ok, he is an older man, but it has some charm it didn’t have before. He is more serious and much much more ready to tell us a story. Before he was fun and playful, now that’s gone, and he seem more worried.
I’m glad you like Henning Stærk. He has been making several cover versions of rock songs, but has also produced his own material.
I like him a lot 😊
He used to be a drummer with Gnags, but Gnags isn’t foreign friendly because they only sing in Danish. But if you have the patience I really recommend this song:
https://youtu.be/jOnyMnP5Uao?si=QmliaTWjxth19jVK
It’s about caged chickens, I guess you can call it a kind of Danish edition of Bob Dylan, but not as serious as he is 😄
@58
I have “Accidentally on Purpose” and I love it 🥰
It’s so different from Deep Purple, but oh so very very good!
Yeah I recognised the genre!🥳
I wonder if he wrote it to his darling wife? It seems so intimate, like a letter to her, he then just happened to make public ☺️
I wonder if Ian G and Roger G had an agreement with DP’s management regarding not making music too similar to Deep Purple’s sound?
November 21st, 2024 at 21:59Is that the normal thing to make an agreement on not going too close?
@59
November 22nd, 2024 at 03:43“I wonder if Ian G and Roger G had an agreement with DP’s management regarding not making music too similar to Deep Purple’s sound?
Is that the normal thing to make an agreement on not going too close?”
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They actually used outtakes from The House of Blue Light that didn’t make it onto the album. 😊
@ 58 – “Yup, that pretty much nails it. Caribbean something. The album (Accidentally On Purpose) was recorded there too. Together with Sabbath’s Born Again, IGB’s CAT & GILLAN’s Double Trouble studio album, my favorite extracurricular work by Big Ian (actually it was a joint solo album with Roger)” Born Again was recorded at the Manor in England. As to a few of those other albums, there are a few differences there too as to where some were recorded. Is Uwe slipping? Indeed it appears so. Do we aim for his jugular, you bet we do! Accidentally On Purpose according to the dreaded Wikipedia was recorded at AIR Studios, Montserrat, Minot Studio and Power Station, New York City, Sountec Studios, Connecticut. The Gillan band used Kingsway Recorders in London and so it was used also for CAT By the IGB. Cheers.
November 22nd, 2024 at 04:34I don’t think so, Karin, I believe they just used the freedom they had to not meet hard rock expectations. After all, they both came from Episode Six which was NOT a hard rock, but a pop band. That said, a song like Telephone Box would have made a fine DP song in the traditional sense too.
https://youtu.be/30aKhmi59dE
They really should have saved that number for a “Purple treatment”, but at this point in the band’s history, Ritchie was still holding the reins and would of course not have had any of it. Missed opportunity. Imagine if Jon had played that intro riff on his Hammond!
November 22nd, 2024 at 04:51Kingsway Studio
https://web.archive.org/web/20160908171819/http://www.philsbook.com/kingsway.html
November 22nd, 2024 at 04:57It appears I was to hasty in putting my foot on Uwe’s jugular, I miss read his favourite Gillan ‘extracurricular’ vocal albums comment. Damn & blast I was loving that while it lasted, until next time. Appearing to take it as a studio recording comment rather than what it was. Back to the drawing board again. Cheers.
November 22nd, 2024 at 09:18Ahh, thanks Nino 🤗
November 22nd, 2024 at 12:16@61
November 22nd, 2024 at 12:21Thanks MacGregor, but what are the Manor in England?
Ian G’s residence? 😊
@62
Yeah you’re completely right, Jon L would have made a gigantic hit there with his Hammond organ!
Really? Ritchie was so determined to decide everything at that point?
So sad really, because what a band it would have been had he known how to behave 😏
November 22nd, 2024 at 12:29@64: But lieber Herr MacGregor, there is no need for a public apology to me just because you have made a fool of yourself! It is completely sufficient to writhe in the dust a little. 😈
I won’t bring it up again other than on a regular basis. Sort of what women do. Say that I’ve forgiven you, but continuously remind you that I did. 😁
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“Really? Ritchie was so determined to decide everything at that point?”
At any point, Karin. Always. Fucking immer. Igen og igen. That’s just Ritchie. A competitive control-freak ego. I remember Big Ian in despair at the fact that in late 80s sessions Jon, Roger and Little Ian would jam on something and then Ritchie would arrive and not liking what he heard simply play something different over them at full volume until everyone followed him. Ritchie has an impulsive taste, he either likes something immediately or dislikes it forever. That is not really conducive to working on someone else’s idea. I’ve had that so often that I’ve disliked a song or an idea initially and then totally came round.
Blackmore is the reason why You Keep On Moving, a track that was written two years before by DC and GH, only appeared belatedly on Come Taste The Band – when he was out of the band and could no longer veto it. And when many decades later Glenn Hughes rerecorded it and explicitly asked Ritchie to solo over it, Blackmore adding insult to injury still refused to participate. Don’t you just love him for it! Going out of his way to make people comfortable and mend things with them. 😐
Those people viewing Ritchie as the be-all and end-all of DP forget what a stifling pain in the arse he sometimes could be. (And then, to boot, react hugely offended as the old diva he was when the band didn’t want to do Black Sheep Of The Family, a third-party song which he liked and which among Stormbringer’s material otherwise would have honestly stuck out like a sore thumb with its late 60s/early 70s songwriting vibe.)
PS: Come Taste The Band, liebste Karin, is of course also a Deep Purple album, one of those deplorable ones not featuring your beloved Ian Gillan. But unlike Burn and Stormbringer he at least did listen to CTTB once, surmising in the process: “I was stunned by the funk thing in the music.”
November 22nd, 2024 at 16:31“They actually used outtakes from The House of Blue Light that didn’t make it onto the album.”
Now that is something I didn’t know, Nino, მადლობა/madloba!
That means THOBL could have been DP’s belated Physical Graffiti, showing the whole gamut of the band’s influences and available styles. What a missed opportunity! I’ve always admired The Beatles for bringing out something like the White Album and – READ THIS CAREFULLY, HERR MACGREGOR !!! – or Led Zep for having the balls to release Physical Graffiti. Purple stuck to the formula much more often and if they didn’t Blackmore would be the first to complain. (Or is there really someone out there who deems the music on Rainbow Rising “varied”? As “varied” as a Ramones album. 🤣)
November 22nd, 2024 at 16:43“He used to be a drummer with Gnags, but Gnags isn’t foreign friendly because they only sing in Danish. But if you have the patience I really recommend this song:
https://youtu.be/jOnyMnP5Uao?si=QmliaTWjxth19jVK
It’s about caged chickens, I guess you can call it a kind of Danish edition of Bob Dylan, but not as serious as he is.”
It’s uncanny how similar Gnags sound to a Berlin band from around the same time called Morgenrot which I loved, they ploughed the same field between power pop, hard rock and New Wave influences.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5PPgRFKhgM&list=PLz-bYTcv-zTewb5Ur_QzjAqqsk3cJIi58
Morgenrot were actually Deep Purple fans, live they were a lot heavier than on record.
November 22nd, 2024 at 16:55Hello my fellow-Highwaystar-readers 😃🤗
A little tiny question:
Jon L explained in an interview how he had to learn the riff to SOTW, on the Hammond ( I guess it was the Hammond, or maybe another keyboard 🤔) because Ritchie now and then didn’t like to show up to extras, ‘hadn’t the public behaved accordingly to his demands’; well, never mind that 😉 but my question is: how come the manegement didn’t interfere?
It seemed to me that manegement decided a great deal, so why not twist his arm so the band could perform at its best?
This tune from ‘Come hell or high water’ dvd is amongst my dearest, it’s so magnificent 😍
https://youtu.be/fvPtsSFEzLs?si=auCRn7EzTnav_SDv
November 22nd, 2024 at 17:1266 – Karin it was Richard Branson’s studio setup in The Manor in Oxfordshire, England. Accommodation was one of the benefits of recording there if musicians needed it. Cheers.
https://www.hifinews.com/content/manor-studio
November 23rd, 2024 at 04:26@ 69 – Aha, the ‘White Album’ which should NEVER have been a double album (George Martin was also adamant it should have been a single album). The worst double album I have heard & owned. Although Hendrix’s “Electric Ladyland” is also only worthy of a single album of decent material. I agree with Physical Graffiti though, it was a good double album. There are a couple I like, The Who & “Tommy” is the strongest to my ears, then Genesis and ‘The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway”, Yes with ‘Topographic Oceans” then Karin’s favourite album of all time, Pink Floyd’s “The Wall”. I suppose I should place The Who with “Quadrophenia” in there somewhere, not a bad effort all things considered. I am not a fan of Deep Purple ever doing a double studio album, I don’t think it would work for some reason. Cheers.
November 23rd, 2024 at 04:41@72
Aha! Thanks so much MacGregor 😊👍🏼
@73
November 23rd, 2024 at 19:41My favourite album of all time?? Pink Floyd’s the Wall? 😥 noooo
@70
Thanks so much for draw my attention to Morgenrot!
It’s a bit unfair that the Danish language is so esoteric, because Gnags has so many subtle innuendos in their lyrics, that are not easily translated.
I’m not fluent in German, so I guess there are plenty of meaning getting lost on me, on the other hand it’s rather depressing that all song have to be in English for the most people to understand the deeper meanings of the lyrics. I dig different languages and the thinking patterns that lie behinds the chosen words.
But lyrics are so important to me, I happily translate sentences to get the meaning behind a tune!
Do you know what I would love? One languages for us all! Oh so many misunderstandings would be avoided ☺️
November 23rd, 2024 at 19:50#55 Karin
AOP owes its eclectic arrangements and its synthesized sounds to that genius of Roger Glover who did a great job…and a bit of an ideal continuation of The Mask with Big Ian’s voice that embellishes every single song.
AOP is a cult album, a slice of the 80s that didn’t have all the success it deserved (even if one song was in the Rain Man soundtrack)
November 23rd, 2024 at 20:34an album that after 36 years never tires the listener.
@76
Fla76 I agree completely! That album really never gets old 😊
I’m always amazed by voices, and Ian G’s voice is so intriguing, exciting and gently – even when he goes all in like in CIT, and certainly on this album he goes all soft and caring even 😊
November 24th, 2024 at 05:53Karin
As MacGregor Kindly explained, The Manor was Richard Bransons.
There was a sort of race track there and I believe some anecdotes from their shenanigans there provided the inspiration for Trashed .
Plus, I think they really did disturb some nearby priests ….hence the song . ( a lot of this is in Gillans book )
Incidentally, the programme with Gillans top 25 bands was repeated on Brit TV again ( and I suspect it will be a recurrent theme ) …you could try You Tube ? Or if there is an app for the channel ‘ Now Rock ” …it really is an excellent watch …some great bands and Gillan really presents well and gives some wonderful interjections …try and catch it
November 25th, 2024 at 02:12@78
Ohh thank you Steve!
So that’s where that happened 😃
I did read about the poor priest who was all apologetic for disturbing the rehearsals ☺️
Unfortunately UK will not allow the Danish people to watch BBC or any other channels. So thanks I’ll search YT. Have already done that several times though, but I’m not a quitter 😉
November 25th, 2024 at 08:00Hi Karin
Great . Glad it helped.
If I see it anywhere else, I’ll let you know
Now, I’m gonna put this out there ….I reckon there will be some DP gigs next year with Blackmore back !
November 25th, 2024 at 12:47It’s just a little feeling I have from reading in between the lines …and now Steve is not there ( sadly ) …..I reckon the time is right
@ 78 – “Incidentally, the programme with Gillan’s top 25 bands was repeated on Brit TV again ( and I suspect it will be a recurrent theme ) …you could try You Tube ? Or if there is an app for the channel ‘ Now Rock ” …it really is an excellent watch …some great bands and Gillan really presents well and gives some wonderful interjections …try and catch it” The more I hear the more I see Ian Gillan’s post Deep Purple career homing into view, sorry a poor pun there. What about him doing Top Gear or something, plenty of fast cars & all, “But on the twenty-fifth lap at the canal turn I went of exploring, I knew I wouldn’t make it the car just couldn’t take it, I was turning tires burning the ground was in my sky, I was laughing the bitch was trashed and death was in my eye “……………… Cheers.
November 25th, 2024 at 20:11“Now, I’m gonna put this out there ….I reckon there will be some DP gigs next year with Blackmore back !
It’s just a little feeling I have from reading in between the lines …and now Steve is not there ( sadly ) …..I reckon the time is right ….”
I would dread that to happen, Steve, Ritchie is no longer physically up to it. He’s become unaccustomed to playing hard and loud music and his fluidity is nowhere near what it once was. That is not knocking him – he has simply focused on other aspects of his playing in the last quarter century (and he’s of course today a much better and experienced acoustic player than he was with Purple in the late 60s and 70s, just imagine if he played something like April today). I really don’t see his return at all.
November 25th, 2024 at 22:42#80 Steve
Steve, but now you have to explain to us what you read between the lines to make you say this!
November 26th, 2024 at 07:22“Reading between the lines” is usually someone taking something completely unrelated and reading into it something that fits their wishes. We all know RB couldn’t play these songs properly the last time he tried. Even if he could, we all know that him on stage with the other DP guys won’t create a time machine that takes us all back to 1972. Like a wise man said, “it’s like teaching a pig to sing – it wastes your time and it will annoy the pig”.
I still have a really hard time understanding why some people want attach so much sentimental value to seeing two people together again on a stage when you deep down inside know it won’t be anything to write home about. It’s like a child wanting their divorced and parents together again. It won’t recreate the past. In the case of RB and DP, if it is that important to you, enjoy the memories and the recordings!
November 26th, 2024 at 07:40Hi All
Yes, I know it will be pure nostalgia and neither musician is as dynamic as they were in their 20s ( no slur on them , it’s just obvious…none of us have the zip of bygone years )
I just see Ritchies tales from the tavern and some things Gillan has said…and I think …why not !?
I bet the majority of fans would love it and it would be a great way to Cap and celebrate a truly, magnificent catalogue.
Everyone else has done it ..Floyd, Zeppelin, Eagles, Sabbath…Scissor sisters are doing it ! ( lol…OK, without Anna , so that doesn’t count)
I’m not talking about a massive tour …just a few dates here and there .
And I personally, thought Blackmore played very well in his MOR thing ….its just the sound that was a bit naff ..and Blackmore being Blackmore, changed the arrangements a bit too much .
Bring it on …Glastonbury next year ..or Knebworth 40th Anniversary!
November 26th, 2024 at 11:31@84
“ I still have a really hard time understanding why some people want attach so much sentimental value to seeing two people together again on a stage when you deep down inside know it won’t be anything to write home about. It’s like a child wanting their divorced and parents together again. It won’t recreate the past. In the case of RB and DP, if it is that important to you, enjoy the memories and the recordings!”
EXACTLY!!
And furthermore, longing so much of what have been, what could be, we might lose some of the present wonderful things! 😃
November 26th, 2024 at 16:11I‘m with you Svante and Karin, but I believe what Steve longs for is closure, a very human sentiment. That final impression of Mk II (sans Jon watching from above) having their rapprochement before riding off into the sunset …
https://img.freepik.com/premium-photo/silhouettes-cowboys-riding-horses-sunset_734334-4343.jpg
Am I right, Steve? I can even understand it, but musical expectations should not be raised too high for it. Ritchie hasn‘t written a decent rock song in the last 30 years.
That said, sure I‘d go and watch.
November 26th, 2024 at 19:55…lol …I knew I’d be locked in the stockades again !
Don’t forget, it is only my personal opinion and desire ….we all like different things , that’s what makes the world so colourful 😊 I’m not here to say what is right and what is wrong …just what I personally, would like to see.
And none of us are getting any younger.
One man’s meat …….
Let the battle rage on …again ! 🤣🤣
November 26th, 2024 at 20:06“It’s only been an hour since they locked him in the tower, the time has come, he must be undone by the morning …”
Don’t worry, Steve, I’ll bring you Red Cross parcels until your valiant end!
(Considering how I always poke fun at Dio’s lyrics, it’s amazing how much of that garbage is still cluttering up my hard drive! 😂)
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Re Karin’s (as yet unanswered, but you know how she has a notebook with entries, guys!) question: “How come the management didn’t interfere (with Ritchie’s antics)?”:
Because they basically let Ritchie get away with everything all the time unless he really, really, really overdid it. Coletta and Edwards, the original DP managers, knew where the money came from, namely from Ritchie’s drive, the riff metal mill inside his head, his controversial image and his ability to again and again assemble talented musicians around him (if not stay together with them for long!). So they favored Ritchie over Big Ian, went along when he wanted Mk II liquidated and Mk III created, mollified other disgruntled band members etc …
Then Ritchie made off with Purple’s US tour manager Bruce Payne for his excursion over the Rainbow. Payne managed Rainbow worldwide throughout its existence and later on also DP after the 1984 reunion. Again he would acquiesce to most of Ritchie’s demands and whims, just to keep him happy, such as getting rid of Big Ian once again and getting Joe Lynn Turner in.
That move however was one turn of the screw too many by Ritchie – eventually Jon, Roger and Ian revolted and Bruce Payne – for the first time – sided with them, he was done with Ritchie too. So Ritchie left for medieval pastures and Payne’s management company Thames Talent (which had already handled the affairs of Rainbow) would continue to manage Morse era DP for a long time until – was it around the time Bob Ezrin came into the picture? – Purple severed their ties to him and had a new global management take care of matters.
And Ritchie these days of course happily listens chiefly to what either his wife or his mother-in-law say. The evil that women do …😆
November 27th, 2024 at 01:02Hi Uwe
Thanks for interjecting and its an interesting thought but, I can promise you it’s not that prophetic and deep .
I just thought it would be a sort of celebration and farewell etc ..a thank you to the fans …just a few gigs. ….thats all. It would certainly be a money spinner !
However, the more I think about it, the more I think its unlikely. As much as I love Gillan , I reckon he’s still miffed about Blackmore firing him in 1990 ..and now he’s revelling in being Captain Gillan of DP and loving all the attention of world wide arena tours and album success .
I won’t lose any sleep if it doesn’t happen but, I know Ritchie has publicly said he’d do it and just imagine the ticket sales !
OK, just had another thought …imagine a tour with all the incarnations of DP …mk 1 , 2, 3 etc culminating with all the musicians on stage …kind of like Albert Hall in 1999 ?….now, that would be fun ..never happen though
November 27th, 2024 at 01:06@89
“ Because they basically let Ritchie get away with everything all the time unless he really, really, really overdid it. Coletta and Edwards, the original DP managers, knew where the money came from, namely from Ritchie’s drive, the riff metal mill inside his head, his controversial image and his ability to again and again assemble talented musicians around him (if not stay together with them for long!). So they favored Ritchie over Big Ian, went along when he wanted Mk II liquidated and Mk III created, mollified other disgruntled band members etc …”
Yeah, that’s not surprising!
November 27th, 2024 at 07:29I‘ve been dreaming of that for decades: a Purple cornucopia gig with all surviving members/ex-members – with Rod Evans flown in by a SWAT team who abducted him from wherever he is.
Separate backstage areas for Ritchie and IG of course! And Glenn and Joe (LT) have to wear mouth gags except when singing. Steve has to wear a collared shirt, Candice can pick one for him.
November 27th, 2024 at 13:58@90 & 92 – Didn’t Jon Lord propose something along those very lines, a concert with every surviving Purple member? To be filmed for posterity. Think this would have been 15-20 years ago.
Only to have the idea shot down by Gillan.
Lord was probably the only one who could have made it happen. Who might have got RB and IG on stage at the same time, at least.
Though whether he would have been able to coax Rod out of retirement even briefly… Is something we’ll never find out.
November 27th, 2024 at 18:00Yeah, sort of what The Band did with The Last Waltz.
Of course, the whole concept collides with the “current, living, breathing DP’s” credo to tour until the wheels fall off and not stage something dramatic indicating human finitude.
I was really surprised when I read that in 56 years Roger Glover has not once met Nick Simper in person to shake his hand (while Don Airey has and even jammed with him). If for no one else (and given that Rod Evans obviously chose to disappear from a rock musician’s life), I would have wished for Nick to have received some kind of recognition for how he was there at the very start (and made Hush sound like it did via his arrangement). I don’t believe that such a (belated) recognition would endanger the operating line-up.
November 27th, 2024 at 19:12@93
Skippy, according to Ian G’s autobiography he has been on the same stage with Ritchie, singing that is 😉
And apparently they are on speaking terms 😊
November 27th, 2024 at 21:05“Skippy, according to Ian G’s autobiography he has been on the same stage with Ritchie, singing that is 😉”
Karin @95, when was that supposed to have taken place?
November 28th, 2024 at 12:54@96
November 28th, 2024 at 16:50What a great question 😄
I really can’t remember, I’ll dig it up for you, I think, THINK, it was in IanG’s autobiography, but I’m not completely sure 🫣
@96: Marquee, London 1978?
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/gillan/1978/marquee-club-london-england-1bc74108.html
November 28th, 2024 at 20:33The Blackmore & Gillan onstage together scenario was always going to be well in the past. And the ‘on speaking terms’ from about, well in more recent years & probably after Jon Lord’s passing. I could be wrong though. Cheers.
November 28th, 2024 at 20:50@ 94- as you are aware Uwe, Roger Glover did speak out in regards to Nick Simper’s ‘exclusion’ at the Hall of Shame’ debacle. They just haven’t bumped into each other anywhere. If they did I am sure it would be very cordial & friendly etc. I noticed Ritchie mentioned the ‘bass guitarist’ on the recent video he did, not his name but his input of sorts. Rod Evans was mentioned by name, maybe Blackers forgot Nick’s name at the time. It could be that ‘bass player’ thing that you mentioned a little while ago. The key to any sort of ‘reunion’ or little cameo for 10 seconds on stage somewhere with ANYONE is in your comment ‘would endanger the operating line-up’. That sounds like some sort of machine, well it is in a way isn’t it? Don’t rock the boat I guess could be another way of looking at it. Well said there because that appears to be how a certain chap perceives it. Why do you think Steve Morse spoke out about it a while ago. Not to worry, humans eh, can’t live with them, cannot live without them. Or should that be the other way around, ‘can’t live with them, can live without them’. Such is life. Cheers.
November 28th, 2024 at 21:07@98
Svante, you’re life saver 😊
Not ready to stick my neck out but I seem to remember there was some fraternising later on too ☺️
November 28th, 2024 at 23:03I’m not aware that since Ritchie’s departure in 1993, he and Ian Gillan have shared a stage anywhere, let alone been in one room together. I believe they haven’t met in 31 years (and Big Ian likes to keep it that way because be feels there is nothing to say between them).
Ritchie guesting with Gillan was pre-DP reunion, that doesn’t count.
I don’t believe that Roger was ever nasty about Nick, Herr MacGregor, I just wondered why they never met in over a half century.
Re the RRHoF thing, we’ve been over that before. I’m sure the initial decision by the Hall was a clerical error, but that DP did not then pull all the stops and say “none of us is coming if Nick isn’t coming as well” (which is what Neil Schon of Journey did to get Gregg Rolie invited – with the Hall adding him retroactively to the induction list), shows that contrary to all their lip service they weren’t really obsessed with having him there. I know no other band inducted where a living founding member was brushed off like that. The man played on three albums and DP’s second largest US hit.
I don’t for a minute think that the Purple management sabotaged Nick’s induction, but they didn’t give a hoot either. Leaves a sour taste, especially since it wasn’t the first time that Nick suffered callous treatment by the management’s and the band’s hands. Even after they had failed to do their job and get him inducted, they could have at least sent him a business class ticket and bought a seat at the table for the induction ceremony, it’s called class. Which I guess you either have or don’t have.
November 28th, 2024 at 23:49@99 MacGregor – yes, pretty sure that it’s been many years since RB has shared a stage with IG, at least not since his final departure in 1993. After Jon Lord’s passing, and in light of the various RB vs. DP lawsuits over the years, odds seem slim that it will ever happen again.
@100 – You’re likely right, Nick & Roger may not ever have bumped into each other.
Or maybe they have met at one point or another, and it was no big deal.
Back in 1971 DP and Warhorse used to rehearse at the same facility, and Nick has said he and Jon Lord crossed paths from time to time and used to exchange brief greetings. Might be that he & Roger, similarly, have nodded at each other in a hallway at some point in the distant past.
In any case, there doesn’t seem to be any bad blood – at various times Nick has said he didn’t blame Roger for taking the gig, and thanked him for speaking up about Nick’s Hall of Fame exclusion.
@94 – Uwe, yes it would be nice if DP invited Nick up to play “Hush” or something… Maybe they will, next time they play London. Several DP-related 80th birthday celebrations will be coming up next year, with any luck!
November 29th, 2024 at 00:03@102
November 29th, 2024 at 16:34I am on the other hand pretty sure I heard Ian G saying, in an interview recorded in Portugal (the one where you can only see head) that he says they talk now and then.
(Or maybe it was a pleasant dream…☺️) (I prefer when people are getting along 🥰)
Roger himself has said on his site that he has never met Nick Simper, thought not by intent.
There is no blame game between them, Roger was as innocent replacing Nick as Glenn was replacing Roger. Roger has said that he always wished to emulate Nick’s bass sound on Hush, but never ever succeeded.
November 29th, 2024 at 18:10@ 102 – yes we HAVE been there before many times Uwe, the same with other comments regarding DP & affiliated acts, they can get repeated over & over again & again. Call me a cynic however I do not agree that Nick Simper’s exclusion was a simple ‘clerical ‘error’. They knew who Rod Evans was so how could a clerical error leave out the ‘other guy’? As we know the R&RHOF have a reputation for certain exclusions & inclusions. Plus the DP management as you rightly suggest, could or SHOULD have done something about it & they didn’t and that sort of smacks of a deliberate exclusion in that aspect. It has happened before with other artists as you stated. I have mentioned The Moody Blues before, with original founding member Denny Laine excluded until band members or management or as this article suggests ‘someone at the top’ put the foot down. The Hall admitted it was an “inadvertent omission.” Maybe it is bass players as Clint Warwick wasn’t included in the original Moody Blues induction either. Anyway we do talk about that water that has flowed under that same bridge again. Cheers.
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/denny-laine-rock-hall/
November 29th, 2024 at 20:41I dunno, esteemed percussionist from the other end of the world, I‘m just trying to make sense of it all:
– Following his departure in 1969, Nick took the then Purple Organization to court and the case eventually settled for a – compared to the money making machine it would become – minor amount, Nick forfeiting all his royalty rights in the process. That was more than half a century ago, I don‘t believe that any commercial hard feelings linger on Purple‘s side from then, keeping the royalty rights was advantageous, and in any case: The Mk II members have sued their former management company several times over since then.
– Unlike Rod Evans, who got invited and inducted by the RRHoF without any apparent pushback from the Purple Organization, Nick never let himself be drawn into the 1980 Bogus Purple fraud, he was even approached, yet said no.
– So what reason could there have been for intentionally not including Nick? I can‘t think of one.
– But there is an explanation for a clerical error and why Rod and Nick were treated differently. Contrary to common belief, Rod Evans did not waive his royalty rights in the course of the settlement following the Bogus Purple trial in 1980. Those rights were only suspended to a lengthy time period, but came back into force sometime post-Millenium. So Rod (or whatever entity he put in place to receive the royalties) is actually receiving payments from the Purple Organization for the Mk l back catalog – unlike Nick who waived his permanently against compensation (in hindsight: a dumb deal) more than 50 years ago. Given that scenario, I don‘t consider it unlikely that when the RRHoF asked for a list of current and former DP members from the DP Organization (as it apparently did in the selection process), some twenty-something intern simply only sent them a list of the current royalty receivers which another twenty-something at the RRHoF did not fact-check properly. That would be a logical, no bad faith-intent from anyone‘s side including explanation why Rod was considered for induction and found worthy while Nick was apparently not even considered, but simply forgotten.
– Mind you, even at that stage things could have still been easily fixed and I rule out that the RRHoF would have refused to do so, they had no conceivable stake in keeping Nick out. But neither the Purple Organization nor the single remaining band member from the Mk I line-up (Little Ian) bothered to call Cleveland and ask why Nick wasn‘t on the list of inductees. There was probably so much disdain for and bemusement about the induction ceremony within the current Purple camp that the organizational aspects were viewed as a chore & bore rather than as necessary steps for a major event to look forward to.
Sloppy. And callous. Not excusable with any professionally working organization as regards alumni network treatment in this day and age. But intent? I think not. Perhaps understandably, people were more worried to have Jon‘s widow invited, miffed at the non-inclusion of Steve and Don as well as
musing what Ritchie would do or not do than give a thought about poor ole Nick.
BTW: Tommy‘s non-inclusion irked me as well. At the time, his stepping into Ritchie‘s platform shoes was big news in the media and he had that Wunderkind/maverick image, anointed as he was by his work on Billy Cobham‘s Spectrum, one of the most influential and critically lauded fusion albums of the early 70s. CTTB sold better in the US than any Rainbow, IGB, Gillan or early Whitesnake album ever and the music on it has long been thoroughly re-appreciated – these days it takes some searching to find someone who DOESN’T like CTTB.
November 30th, 2024 at 14:25Yes I can sort of understand a ‘clerical error’ if the royalty payments are what they go in in an artists history. What I cannot fathom is that if an artist in nominated, why doesn’t someone do their homework properly? How hard is it to look up a bands history & who the original & defining members were. Especially as Hush was a big hit over in the USA. Regarding Bolin’s induction, I don’t know about that Uwe. I do think in hindsight (as I also did at the initial announcement) of Coverdale & Hughes being inducted, that they were incredibly fortunate to get in. One album (Burn) and a successful tour (including the Cal Jam) & riding off the back of MarkII’s success. So Tommy Bolin stood no chance. I would have swapped Nick Simper for Coverdale & Hughes. It is what it is. Cheers.
December 1st, 2024 at 05:07Due to the CalJam being nationally broadcast, Mk III were more visually present to most American viewers/listeners than Mk II. Add to that how Burn is a really strong album that sold better in the US than any Mk II studio album except for Machine Head.
Also by sheer duration and quantity of output, Mk II (four studio albums in as many years) and Mk III/IV (three studio albums in slightly less as many years) are not that far apart.
Of course, Mk II were the mother mold for everything to come after them, I’m not denying that they had the greater relevance in their time. Mk III & IV were basically highly successful stadium rock acts, but not musical leaders anymore. Though the dual lead vocals did set them apart from the pack, I’m not aware of any other hard/heavy rock band flaunting this as much though some critics scoffed at the time that MK III sounded like a heavy metal version of Delaney & Bonnie.
December 1st, 2024 at 17:27