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Ritchie Blackmore recounts George Harrison joining Deep Purple on stage on the Perfect Strangers tour in Australia:



48 Comments to “They were going nowhere”:

  1. 1
    MacGregor says:

    Thanks for Blackmore’s memory of that night, it was special indeed. George & Ringo are the coolest members of the Beatles. Their modesty & quieter vibe, wonderful. I also like the other two members of course, but I guess the over exposure sort of ruins it at times. Cheers.

  2. 2
    Uwe Hornung says:

    Now when exactly did Ritchie become a leftie?

    The Quiet One remembers the incident …

    https://youtu.be/TfK–RqC4Kw

  3. 3
    Adel Faragalla says:

    Well I know I will upset someone people when i say that the reason George joined them on stage because DP was very big that year and with the second biggest grossing band that year and George was touring solo promoting his solo album so it makes sense to get some publicity on the back of DP.
    This is facts as he was touring Australia that year.
    My apologies if I hurt anyone’s feelings.
    Peace ✌️

  4. 4
    Gregster says:

    Yo,

    @3…

    You’re probably right, but don’t forget that they’ve all known each other for decades, hung-out together at times, & that George lived in QLD Australia…

    It makes sense that they got in touch, & to make a cameo on-stage with the boys means they were all having a good-time, & glad to see each other again ! ( And likely got together before hand, that may have initiated the surprise appearance ).

    Adonai vasu !

  5. 5
    Uwe Hornung says:

    Adel, come on, George Harrison would have never needed to earn another buck and if he had stopped working in 1970. He made solo albums for creative release. I think in 1984/85 he was still so reasonably well-known 😂 that an impromptu jam appearance at the other end of the world was not really needed to generate some attention.

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    MacGregor says:

    George & his wife Olivia owned a property in Queensland, Australia a little after 1984, so yes he was obviously getting used to being here at times. I am not sure if he was touring or not in 1984. At this time 40 years ago we had just received our tickets for the Purple shows in Sydney, exciting times indeed. Another little story of some interest perhaps. Early to mid 2000’s & I was sitting in a Naturopaths business on the Gold Coast in QLD waiting for a friend. On the wall there were a set of framed photos of George with other people. A small story was attached & apparently he regularly frequented the clinic for personal health therapy. The photos were of Harrison with the two owners. A little prop up for their business no doubt & a nice story in all. Anyway, below is another George living in Australia story. Cheers.

    https://beatlesblogger.com/2013/05/09/george-harrison-and-hamilton-island/

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    Uwe Hornung says:

    Adel, George says hi from Cloud 9, there are no hard feelings.

    https://youtu.be/ocEsVFKAoe8

    If you squint your eyes, you can see on the far-left some neighborhood help from Henley-on-Thames on electric piano. George stresses that all the luminaries playing with him volunteered to do so and that he did not crash the stage. 😀

  8. 8
    robert says:

    @3
    Actually, George and Jon were friends, Jon and a few others (like Alvin Lee) would be invited over for drinks and a jam session.

  9. 9
    Terry says:

    Ritchie is so funny , but little does he know that Glenn Hughes has a story , when he was starting out George, Ringo and John came to see him at a concert with a view to him replacing Paul Mc Cartney, but out of respect for his “bother” Paul , he turned it down.

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    Adel Faragalla says:

    I am quite aware of the how the three IP, JL and George Harrison neighbourhood link in Henley On Thames.
    But without being disrespectful to the Beatles game, the reality that DP were mega that year.
    They all come from the background of Rainbow, Black Sabbath,Gillian, Whitesnake and Even Ian Paice had some time with Gary Moore so add this to the old Catalogue of DP as well so their followers were in the 100th of millions world wide.
    Yes they were bigger than the Beatles at this moment in time and that’s a fact and not a disrespect to the Beatles.
    In an interview about this George Harrison played down the popularity of DP by saying they did this song about some on the water as if he never heard of it before and took the Mickey if Ian Gillan by saying he is a funny guy that screams a lot. He also added that he didn’t have a clue which cords and notes he was playing on the guitar with them.
    Maybe it was just a bit of laughter on stage but there is no denying that DP were huge and bigger than anyone around at at point worldwide.
    Peace ✌️

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    Uwe Hornung says:

    Oh yes, Adel, Jon was so much more famous in 1985 than George that in a film from then (“Water”, where the above clip is from) Jon is hardly shown much less mentioned! They were really exploiting his presence to get bums on cinema seats. 😉

    My mom, born 1931, knew George Harrison and the other three guys he played with by name and look, but even though her son was a raging Deep Purple fan, a band she had faintly heard of, no name of a DP member ever rang a bell with her. I must have been living in an alternative universe.

    The Beatles might have been bigger than Jesus as Yoko‘s husband once quipped, but Purple ever bigger than them?

    In 1984, when Purple reconvened, George‘s last single had been #2 in the US Charts (after Kim Carnes‘ Bette Davis Eyes):

    https://youtu.be/eNL40ql4CYk

    And his next hit was just a few years away, this time a #1 in the US and a staple vid on MTV:

    https://youtu.be/_71w4UA2Oxo

  12. 12
    Wiktor says:

    I think Bruce Springsteen was bigger around that time!

  13. 13
    Karin Verndal says:

    @11
    My mum knew all about the bands I had posters of on all the walls in my bedroom 😃 she highly disagreed but I made sure she was aware of their importance!
    It’s the child’s duty as I see it….
    And yes DP way, waaaaay, bigger than the little 4-persons band (which I actually really like though 😊)

  14. 14
    MacGregor says:

    @ 9 – ha ha ha, nice one. Cheers.

  15. 15
    Nino says:

    No, Deep Purple were never mainstream. They could have been, but they weren’t, and that’s good for me and for people like me. But I can tell you one thing, just listen to Lucille’s tempo, they play twice as slow as they would have played if it weren’t for George. Harrison simply couldn’t have performed this song at the same tempo as Deep Purple, but he was always more popular anyway.

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    Uwe Hornung says:

    I think George was quite adept in playing Rock’n’Roll tunes at a faster pace too …

    https://youtu.be/5gbb1gLhI3o

    His terse and always tasteful style plus especially his one-of-a-kind bottleneck playing have been highly praised by people as diverse as Eric Clapton, Gary Moore and Ted Nugent, all three no slouches on lead guitar.

    https://youtu.be/zQxSJG6T9oY

    The DP reunion in 1984/85 was a great commercial success (only Bruce Springsteen outsold them in tickets in the US) and artistically solid, but it is not that it returned them to being cultural frontrunners in the second part of the 80s. The 80s are the age of Madonna, Bon Jovi and U2, not of Deep Purple.

    Which is good, I’m with Nino on that, I never wanted to like a band that is immensely popular. Purple were and are well-known, but never beyond their early 70s heyday were they cultural icons and superstars.

    I once read in a Zeppelin forum something like this, quoting it in a Purple forum is of course inflammatory heresy, but there is more than a grain of truth to it:

    “Deep Purple are essentially a musicians’ band. There is no mystique to Highway Star, it’s a feel good track that could come from Foghat, except for the instrumental highlights (I get to those in a second). Their most famous song is about a freak incident that happened only to them, it’s like a postcard, they recount what took place, no flourishes or poetry added. Outside of Purple they never did or said anything interesting, they were not a sociological or cultural force. What makes them stand out is the sheer ability of the individual musicians involved, Blackmore, Lord and Paice played at such an incredibly high level, especially live where many other bands flounder. Talk to any guys liking Deep Purple on why they like them and they will be going on about how great Blackmore, Lord and Paice are as players by the second sentence. And they actually are, but they are not more than that and they apparently never wanted to be.”

    Sometimes, Zeppelinistas can be a perceptive people, don’t you think?

  17. 17
    John says:

    I’m surprised Ritchie even let George on stage, since he was so weird about stuff like that.

  18. 18
    Uwe Hornung says:

    “My side is my side of the stage and no one goes there except me, Glenn!”

    Ritchie, to a new band mate, circa 1974, who wanted a little more physical interaction during live sets.

    https://media.gettyimages.com/id/649303576/photo/tommy-bolin-playing-guitar-and-glenn-hughes-with-deep-purple-at-nippon-budokan-december-15th.jpg?s=612×612&w=gi&k=20&c=pDYktfigN7tbmcajb5cgGLtWgqZVHa7AJj2oi8_yukU=

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    DeeperPurps says:

    Uwe at 16…….Deep Purple didn’t need to rely on image, mystique, gimmicks nor hype. It was all about the music, played with superior skill and finesse. And just as Gillan stated in a recent interview….they have avoided trying to be fashionable. And for all those reasons, Purple is my band of choice.

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    Fla76 says:

    #16 Uwe

    “Outside of Purple they never did or said anything interesting”

    It takes courage to write such bullshit.
    the solo careers of the members of Deep Purple are incomparable with the solo careers of any other member of a historic band, much less Robert Plant who took the ethnic trip and never left it again, how boring…

    but maybe I’m stupid to comment on such obscenities from the fans of the “cousins”

  21. 21
    Fla76 says:

    #15 Nino

    It’s true that Purple have never been mainstream, and perhaps they would have been if they had agreed to interrupt the PS tour to take part in Live Aid.

    At the time they were on tour and couldn’t interrupt it (where there’s a will there’s a way, as the saying goes), and there was a rumour that they would have made a connection via Salellite from the Swiss stadium anyway, but Blackmore opposed it.
    I don’t know how true this is

  22. 22
    Frater Amorifer says:

    #16 – Whoever wrote that Zeppelin quote, don’t forget 2 of the 3 DP bassplayers…

  23. 23
    Frater Amorifer says:

    GH had a lot more to do with the Beatles’ music than he was given credit for. Including many of JL and PMC’s songs.

  24. 24
    Georgivs says:

    @16 The validity of that Zeppelinista statement depends on what s/he means by ‘culture’. If that means societal trends and fashions, then indeed DP have had very little relevance. But if culture means specific accomplishments in music, painting etc., then DP have been, are and will be relevant till the end of times. J.S. Bach was not hip in his lifetime, but his works outlived him based on merit, not on fashion. People keep listening to the Magic Flute based on the quality of the music, not on the stupid freemason mysticism of the libretto. In a hundred years, people will keep appreciating musicianship and writing skills as culture.

  25. 25
    Uwe Hornung says:

    Glenn was certainly a Beatles buff in his early days.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGKLhipaNIA

    And can still carry a Beatles tune …

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5V1rPFONpY

    *********************************************************

    I actually found the observations of the unknown Zep fan not so inappropriate at all. It was part of a discussion why DP never reached LZ’s status (in the US at least) and I think he gave an evenhanded outside view, focusing on DP’s indisputable strength – and that was during the 70s the Blackmore-Lord-Paice triumvirate. And good as Roger and Glenn were as bassists, they were in the shadow of the other three instrumentalists, just like John Paul Jones was in the shadow of Pagey and Bonzo (undeservedly so).

    Throughout the 70ies there were stand-alone extensive solo pieces by Jon, Ritchie and Litte Ian live – there were never similar bass solos though both Roger and Glenn would have had the chops for it. Glenn had plentiful solo pieces live, but they all focused on his singing (or screaming, his detractors would say). It wasn’t until Tommy came along that there was a bass & guitar call & response introduced with the long live version of Getting Tighter. I always loved that.

  26. 26
    MacGregor says:

    @ 25 – “And good as Roger and Glenn were as bassists, they were in the shadow of the other three instrumentalists, just like John Paul Jones was in the shadow of Pagey and Bonzo (undeservedly so)”. I do notice over time that a very quiet, reserved & introvert musician will often get over looked in an ensemble. JPJ in Zeppelin was just that, he was a integral part of Zeppelin & they wouldn’t have been as diverse without him. However it was his personality that left him in the others wake, the same with Richard Wright in Pink Floyd. A very quiet unassuming musician who also gets ‘overlooked’ in that aspect. In regards to Glover & Hughes not being able to stretch out in Blackmore fronted Purple, well maybe Ritchie’s persona had a little to do with that & being a senior (original) member of the band could have also been a reason, including also with Lord & Paice. Glover also is a quiet & reflective sort of chap. In regards to Hughes, without Blackmore there, his persona came to the fore, far too much at times as we were already witnessing throughout the Stormbringer tour & even before that on the Burn tour. A caged lion being held back & he was always going to break free at some point. Introvert or extrovert. So many other bands have similar personality ‘issues’ & it is more evident when we get to see them performing live in concert. Cheers.

  27. 27
    Fla76 says:

    #25 Uwe

    I don’t want to make a competition between our Roger and the good Jon Paul Jones, but as a solo career Roger clearly wins.

    First of all, Jones only started making albums in the late 80s, while Roger had already churned out the masterpieces Butterfly Ball & Elements in the 70s.

    secondly Jones’ solo albums have always been self-referential and self-indulgent, there is no questioning his technical ability, but boredom takes over, the album with Diamanda Galás is truly indigestible, and if I have to listen to fusion-rock I prefer a million times Neal Schon’s solo albums or the works of Niacin just to give two examples on the fly.

    Roger has always had the merit of putting the song form at the forefront in his solo works.

    every time I listen to The Mask I’m always amazed by the work he did as a multi-instrumentalist, arranger, sound designer, especially in an era where there were synthesizers but everything else was still analog.
    the same great work as accidentally on purpose.

    Jimi Page as a soloist basically just released an album of unappealing songs in a hard blues style with an obviously Zep-style voice, while Ritchie with Rainbow has at the same time influenced heavy metal.

    even for their solo careers, and for the whole sprawling Purple family, Zeppelin for me come out with broken bones

  28. 28
    Uwe Hornung says:

    Fla76, you won’t see me here putting up valiant fights for Led Zep, of all bands!

    I agree with the Purple family solo output being much more varied (though JPJ did receive deserved recognition for his Them Crooked Vultures project). I respect Robert Plant’s solo career and what he did with Frau Alison Krauss for its artistic integrity, but Jimmy Page really floundered badly post-Zep. The only near worthwhile things he did were his short-lived collaborations with Rodgers, Plant and Coverdale – it’s like he needs a foil on equal footing with him to do better than average work. Not that any of these projects came close to eliciting the magic of Led Zep which they undoubtedly had and have for many people – except me. (I can’t believe I just wrote this, my magnanimity towards LZ knows no bounds, yet I hardly ever receive due credit for it.)

    As regards sheer bass playing skills go, I don’t rule out that JPJ might have the slight edge over both Roger and Glenn in technique, he was very fast and accurate. JPJ’s role in Zep is a weird one: A lot of his bass playing is more intricate than what either Roger or Glenn would do, yet he managed to sound unobtrusive to the point of almost not being there. His long years as a session musician, Page’s production values favoring guitar, drums, vocals and billowing atmosphere over pronounced bass tracks as well as Bonzo’s drumming (it’s a lot easier to shine as a bassist playing with Ian Paice than John Bonham, let me tell you!) all might have something to do with it.

    Gene Simmons once said: “John Paul Jones is a great bass player, but you would never really hear him on Zeppelin records because there was so much going on with the other guys. All the attention focused on them.” That is kind of like I feel about JPJ too.

    With Purple, especially once that Rickenbacker sound was established on MH, MIJ and WDWTWA, Roger was sonically much more prominent. Even something as simple as his chromatic intro to SOTW is an integral part of the song – I can’t think of anything as iconic played by JPJ (who was very often a much more busy player than Roger).

    Interestingly, Glenn never got his bass playing with Purple recorded as well on Burn, Stormbringer and even CTTB as Roger on the previous albums. Glenn sounded dominant live, but not – with his bass – in the studio. Maybe Martin Birch bears some responsibility for this, he never got – in the studio – Glenn down as well as he did Roger (on Burn it is especially bad, but the other two albums aren’t really great either considering how naturally prominent a bass player Glenn usually is). Live it was of course another matter.

    And if my memory doesn’t deceive me, JPJ at all times led the bass player polls in the 70ies over Roger and Glenn. For what it’s worth.

  29. 29
    Fla76 says:

    I’m not arguing that Jones is better than Roger & Glenn technically, I’m just saying that his solo career is not even remotely comparable to that of the two Purple bass men.

    maybe you forgot how much JPJ comes in with the bass in Whole lotta love, i’d say that’s iconic too, right?

  30. 30
    MacGregor says:

    @ 28 – “Not that any of these projects came close to eliciting the magic of Led Zep which they undoubtedly had and have for many people – except me. (I can’t believe I just wrote this, my magnanimity towards LZ knows no bounds, yet I hardly ever receive due credit for it.)” What a lovely way to start my day, with those eloquent words from Uwe. It doesn’t matter though Uwe, as your Son gladly made up for any down turn in the LZ stakes at your abode back then. It is your poor wife who I do wonder about at times. How did she put up with DP blaring out of one room while LZ bludgeoned from another? She must have had really good hearing protection at the time. I do hope her hearing hasn’t been impacted upon because of that dilemma. Regarding JPJ as a bass guitarist, yes he does fly under the radar mostly, but he is there when it matters, a wonderful player who inspired Geddy Lee quite a lot. His keyboard & mandolin & acoustic guitar ability were also critical in opening the door somewhat to Led Zep’s diversity. Page is no fool, he picked Jones for his experience & diversity & well done sir. JPJ is the sort of musician that many many bands would love to have in their ranks. He was the ‘glue’ that held Zeppelin together in that sense, a bit like John Entwistle with The WHO. Cheers.

  31. 31
    Uwe Hornung says:

    I find the non-chord-change Whole Lotta Love incredibly boring, Fla76, sorry! It overstays its welcome with me after like 30 seconds. And that swarming bees middle part is plain silly (besides you could never dance to it properly). Its only redeeming feature is that mock-ejaculation guitar break by Jimmy Page on his Tele. WLL sounds like what it is: an over-amplified Mississippi Delta Blues riff monotonously repeated for minutes on end with Robert Plant doing groaning and squealing porn-voice-overs. It’s Zep’s worst number alongside Hairday in Devon or whatever it was called.

    This version here was at least visually appealing and had a decent horn arrangement in the middle as well as some Hammond.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moANykp4UWM

    Somewhere in Tasmania I hear someone mumbling “cover up!” 😂🤣😂 Prude Prog is everywhere, I tell you.

    PS: Nope JPJ’s bass on WLL doesn’t strike me as iconic, all he does is double the guitar riff one octave deeper – duh! That is pretty much how Geezer Butler used to earn his living on the first two formative Sabbath albums. Roger, otoh, in SOTW does a nice ascending chromatic run from E (the major sixth to Blackmore’s and Lord’s G as they conclude the prior riff) to then hit the G root, NOT slavishly following Blackmore’s and Lord’s riff, and releasing the tension only when he moves to the C and Bb towards the end. Now that IS nifty and tasteful. And adds something different other than just making the Jimmy Page riff ‘thicker’ as JPJ does.

    I find bass runs simply copying a guitar riff one octave deeper lame. Yes. there is a time and a place for it sometimes, but it’s been overdone and is kinda lazy. When it was requested off me I would regularly roll my eyes and say: “Are we now sixteen and rehearsing together for the first time after school? I’m not your friggin’ stomp octaver.” 😁

  32. 32
    DeeperPurps says:

    Uwe @ 28……”the magic of Led Zep which they undoubtedly had and have for many people – except me. (I can’t believe I just wrote this, my magnanimity towards LZ knows no bounds, yet I hardly ever receive due credit for it.)””

    I hereby confer upon thee, due credit!

  33. 33
    Karin Verndal says:

    @31
    Our little cute Charismatic Voice Elizabeth seemed to like that particular song with LZ 😊

  34. 34
    Uwe Hornung says:

    “It is your poor wife who I do wonder about at times. How did she put up with DP blaring out of one room while LZ bludgeoned from another?”

    Edith’s view of DP specifically and my music more generally can be easily summed up:

    – All my music is always played too loud. I am also devoid of any form of embarrassment about some of the bands I like.

    – DC’s (terrible 80s look!) and especially Glenn Hughes’ (headaches!) voices do nothing for her, Ian Gillan she recognizes as someone special and immediately identifiable though he pagan heart is adamant that this Yank upstart Ted Neeley did a better job on JC Superstar than Big Ian. I should really divorce her for that and it gemains a serious bone of contention between us.

    – In general, she finds, the vocals on DP studio and live output are never loud enough.

    – Ritchie is a somewhat laughable figure to her, she can’t find anything special about his guitar playing at all and thinks his protruding eyes as a younger man were signs of a developing clinical condition. At BN gigs she finds that a very American Candice does an admirably effective job keeping him under control and building a rapport with the audience, also that she sings well, if not with a huge range (Edith is a soprano in several choirs) and sans any Blues inflection.

    – She hates those riff-dominated DP songs like SOTW and Burn as being “sledgehammer” with riffs being endlessly repeated. Her favorite DP songs are Child in Time, Perfect Strangers and the April Suite. When she hears This Time Around she quips: “Is that Gilbert O’Sullivan or Deep Purple?”. (That has no effect on me, I like Gilbert O’Sullivan.)

    – She loves Jon Lord, Tommy Bolin (songs and voice) and thinks Little Ian is a great drummer.

    – She accepts that Roger Glover at least tries to dress well (and should give sartorial advice to Don Airey more often). That Steve Morse’s late wife Janine allowed him to go on stage “like that” is to her a grave dereliction of marital duties, men need guidance on issues like that. Edith also believes that you should play to your strengths when dressing – Steve’s penchant for heavy Native American jewelry around a neck that is “not naturally graced with extreme length” is deemed “unfortunate” by her.

    – Like a lot of Germans, Edith is much more acquainted with the music of DP, Status Quo (she finds them amusing), Pink Floyd or in her case Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young and Pearl Jam than what LZ did. She thinks Percy sings way too high on most harder Zep songs – yet whenever I play Thin Lizzy, a band she doesn’t know well either except for the most obvious hits, she always asks: “Who is that guy singing, his voice is real nice?” (Phil Mogg of UFO gets credit too while she hates Klaus Meine for being nasal.) The more ballady stuff of LZ (of which there is a lot) finds more her favor. Robert Plant, she says, has unlike David Coverdale aged gracefully. Why Jimmy Page wore pyjamas with dragon applications on stage is beyond her.

    – My love for Judas Priest is dismissed by Edith as a somewhat stunted development from my teenage days. When I sing along to the Metal Gods, Electric Eyes, Night Crawlers, Rippers, Painkillers, Turbo Lovers, Jawbreakers, Hellions, Metallians and of course Sentinels that populate Halford’s imagery, she advises helpfully: “Do you ever listen to yourself with that stuff? Grow up!” Halford is to her a cute gay man, not naturally endowed as male handsomeness goes, with a technically excellent voice though she doesn’t really like his steely tone, her all-time favorite singers are of the Paul Rodgers, David Gilmour and Eddie Vedder ilk.

  35. 35
    Karin Verndal says:

    @34
    I like Edith 😃

  36. 36
    MacGregor says:

    @ 34 – interesting & good to hear your wife is a soprano in a choir or two Uwe. So that is where all the musical knowledge emanates from in that household. All has been revealed. Cheers.

  37. 37
    Uwe Hornung says:

    We’ve both learned from each other, Edith is by now real good at picking out what the bass plays in a song and I enjoy Bob Dylan a lot more!

  38. 38
    Karin Verndal says:

    @37
    Just like us at my home!
    Except my husband, also known by the name René, isn’t very fond of classical music.

  39. 39
    Uwe Hornung says:

    “Our little cute Charismatic Voice Elizabeth seemed to like that particular song with LZ 😊”

    I wrinkle my nose in disdain!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn5A9Lv9UgU

    And Gene’s tongue is longer than hers too, so there!

  40. 40
    Karin Verndal says:

    @39
    Well you got me there, I’ve never measured their tongues 🤷🏼‍♀️

  41. 41
    Uwe Hornung says:

    Yes, tongue envy is psychologically debilitating as Gene Simmons’ lovely daughter Sophie all too well knows (@13:45 all is revealed).

    https://youtu.be/p1cC15UrKi4

  42. 42
    Karin Verndal says:

    @41
    I still haven’t the measurements on the Charismatic Voice’ tongue 😄

    And I would certainly not take makeup advices from Mr GS ☺️

  43. 43
    Fla76 says:

    #31 Uwe

    It may be banal for the bass to repeat the main riff of Whole lotta love, but I find it absolutely iconic and in the development of the intro it fits as well as that of SOTW.

    then that Roger’s work is better in the intro you’re certainly right, but maybe in WLL it makes more sense to dub the main riff

  44. 44
    Uwe Hornung says:

    Hey, the Demon make-up is the most intricate one of all KISS faces and skillfully done!

    Poor Sophie and her tongue. Not an experience we had. Would you believe that a whole series of dentists (we were in search of a diverging second opinion, but they all said the same) wanted to – and this is no joke – CUT OUT a triangular piece of my daughter’s tongue tip (and stitch it back together) because they deemed it too long, claiming all these impending horror scenarios such as a deformed set of teeth and severe speech impediments for life? And I said: “No, your certainly not cutting up my daughters tongue 👅!” Being the forward thinking type of parent, I also added that: “Who knows, her future husband might appreciate the length (incongruously, my first wife jabbed me with her elbow hard for this comment) or she can be the bassist in an all-female Kiss tribute act!” And thus my daughter’s long tongue stayed, she didn’t learn bass with it, but her teeth are straight (she didn’t even need braces), she has a job where she is regularly a public speaker and her husband has never complained to me about it either.

  45. 45
    Uwe Hornung says:

    Fla76, of course you have a point. And WLL is from 1969, that was an era were doubling the guitar riff on bass – very much introduced and popularized by Cream because in the early 60s bassists would still regularly NOT ape what the guitarists played – was de rigueur, Roger did it a lot in the beginning of MK II too.

    Had WLL been recorded during, say, Physical Graffiti, I’m sure JPJ, a very versatile musician, would have approached it differently. He was a tasteful bassist.

    What I love about the SOTW intro is how nifty it all fits together: There is Ritchie with that behemoth riff, then Jon doubles it (unusual for organ rather than playing a chord to it), Little Ian plays those unexpected 16ths on the hi-hat and then Roger brings in the 8ths with his ploughing bass line, he’s sort of in between what Ritchie do with the the stomping quarter note-oriented riff and Little Ian’s busy 16ths. From a very German viewpoint: It’s well-engineered!

    WLL is of course meant to replicate the rhythm of sexual intercourse, it’s a humping number. JPJ provided more downward thrust with his bass – as one would in a situation like that. 😅

  46. 46
    Karin Verndal says:

    @44
    Oh my 😄😄
    Why not put all our tongue’s measurement out here!

  47. 47
    Fla76 says:

    #45 Uwe

    it’s true, if you mention Cream as a comparison, Sunshine of your Love immediately comes to mind with the bass doubling Clapton’s riff

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    Uwe Hornung says:

    Though Cream never liked to hear it, but they were heavy metal progenitors, all the ingredients that would make up this music later on were introduced and heavily flaunted by them. You can’t pick your children, they are given to you.

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